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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    Actually, it is sad that you and some others do not realize that making Rank 2 easier to obtain since not enough people provision anymore will be no different than how it was when it came out.
    we understand perfectly well- but you need to get your head out of your arse and pay attention to what people are saying. so let me break it down for you. and read it a few times and process it before you respond.

    people compete for top provisioner no matter what. top provisioner gets seals whether rank 1 or rank 2. more players needing more seals leads to higher demand and higher competition for top provisioner. this means more turn ins are required to get the top spot, and as a side effect the 3 mil points necessary for rank 2 was achieved with far more frequency. 60k point runs are considered necessary for a legitimate shot at seals without top provisioner. 60k point runs aren't possible in rank 1 hamlet. with more competition for top provisioner leading to more rank 2 hamlets, more people had opportunities for more 60k runs and by proxy more seal drops.

    without as many people doing hamlet, there are less people competing (and competing less fiercely) for top provisioner so it requires less points to get it. less total turn ins for less points leads to not always having enough to bump hamlet to rank 2. with rank 1 hamlet 60k runs are impossible and generally the only people getting seals are top provisioners.

    when seals/hamlet were more desired and there was more competition, everyone benefited by proxy because rank 2 was more common and they could still get 60k runs for seals without top provisioners. the only caveat was dragging your butt to hamlets and grinding it out. now that it's less desired, rank 2 is less common and it's not anyone else's fault if people didn't take advantage for the *many months* rank 2 was still commonplace.

    your request to lower requirements to reaching rank 2 will have little (if any) impact on the competition for top provisioner, but that isn't the point. that will fluctuate regardless and people will compete for that regardless. however it will have a noticeable impact on the number of people obtaining seals without nearly the same effort. before, *someone* always had to carry to load to get rank 2 and those people spent a buttload of time/money getting top prov to guarantee their own seals. now with lower demand, people don't have to spend nearly as much time or money comparatively to get top prov.

    you're effectively asking for *everyone* to reap the same benefits (rank 2 and 60k runs after a few players worked their butts off for top prov, bumping hamlet to rank 2 in the first place) with far, far less time/money/effort. and under what pretense? because with only a month left before servers are down, even though everyone had many months prior to get what they wanted- you/they suddenly feel a sense of entitlement? your justification is that other people already got theirs so it shouldn't matter that others get theirs for less?

    "but we have a life, we can't play 24/7" isn't an argument, either. plenty of people got their seals and gear with full time jobs and/or school back when rank 2 was all but guaranteed. and while it's unfortunate some people have been unlucky on seal or gear drops, that isn't the fault of the community.

    so what does the community stand to gain by making seals easier than ever to obtain, considering relic quest is supposed to be grindy and expensive and long and difficult? especially when the questline itself ended up being easier than the devs or community had anticipated?

    and it's supposed to be made even easier for the last month just so some people who are late to the party can get what they feel entitled to?

    nope. get out of here with that mess. a month to go or not, making seals easier to come by is a bad idea, and can't/won't happen. and if what you say is true and this isn't really about seals, then...

    making rank 2 easier to get isn't the answer. making rank 2 easier makes not only militia gear easier to get but also seals. making seals easier to get makes relic easier to get. making relic easier to get isn't the way. and if militia gear is what you want, making seals easier to get isn't the way. if militia gear is what you want, the only logical, reasonable thing to ask for is for militia gear to be easier to get. and the way to do this is to request militia gear requirements to be adjusted so they're more possible with rank 1 hamlet.

    this will have no impact on seals/relic quest and still get you what you claim you're after.

    if you continue to disagree and continue to push the issue, repeating yourself about rank 2 needing to be easier to get- you're either too busy flailing with entitlement to pay attention to exactly what's being said, or you're lying about wanting militia gear in the first place and just using it as AN EXCUSE so you won't look like a selfish ass requesting hamlet seals to be made ezmode just for you and your friends.

    dig?
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    Last edited by Ikkenoe; 10-07-2012 at 07:01 PM.