Fix Hamlet Please?

[Wynn]

My apologies and my mistake. Still, I'm not so sure that I would support this. The people who are struggling to get into the content either a) neglected to do it until now or b) are newer and were not capable of doing it before. Either route, they simply missed the timing. And, while kind of a bummer, it is justifiable that it remain as is.

This content shouldn't have a small window of timing to remain enjoyable or even to be enjoyed in the first place. It is obvious the original design was meant for extremely heavy use by people with infinite money to burn and not the every day use by normal players that would result once the newness wore off. This is a problem and it is not how SE or any developer should be designing content for their games.

[Yves]

This content shouldn't have a small window of timing to remain enjoyable or even to be enjoyed in the first place. It is obvious the original design was meant for extremely heavy use by people with infinite money to burn and not the every day use by normal players that would result once the newness wore off. This is a problem and it is not how SE or any developer should be designing content for their games.

Honestly, dude? The whole relic quest is garbage to begin with. But I don't think they had much choice. We wanted content (justifiably so) while they completed 2.0. Realistically this content couldn't be too in-depth due to resources. It also needed to fill a void while they finished ARR. The result? A craptastic grindfest designed to burn time and keep people occupied. Seriously, take a look at the quest itself.

1a. Obtain 25k marks for key item
1b. Obtain 3 seals from each hamlet
-low drop rate, divided by 8 potential players, multiplied by 3
1c. Double-meld
-low success rate for meld
-moderate success rate for actual base weapon
-heavy time investment for mats or heavy gil investment

And that's just the first leg and I'm being really conservative. Is this good content? Not by a longshot. This is horrid, to be honest. What I'm saying is that this wasn't meant for heavy use people - it was meant to keep people busy and distracted. And it's crap.

[fusional]

This content shouldn't have a small window of timing to remain enjoyable

it's been around for how many months already?

It is obvious the original design was meant for extremely heavy use by people with infinite money to burn

sounds about right for the longest/grindy-est step of the relic quest, yeah?

and no, it isn't all about relic. but considering it's the first and longest roadblock on the road to relic, making hamlet easier in any way makes relic easier. people will compete for top spot whether rank 1 or 2 and get seals whether rank 1 or 2, but by making it easier to reach rank 2 you're making it easier for *everyone else* to get seals, too. yes, it's far from guaranteed. but claims of seal drops being 'rare' are exaggerated. get 60k points (which is extremely easy) and you're looking at a 20-30% drop rate, maybe better. that's not rare.

so by making it easier to hit rank 2 you make it easier than ever before for people to basically just coast to their 9 seals. and considering devs have already expressed concern about more people obtaining relic than expected, i strongly doubt they're going to chop the legs out from under the longest step in the questline.

just saying.

[darkstarpoet1]

Another person who does not get it.

I am just talking about doing the content available. Hamlets not going to Rank 2 means no one does them which means we aren't enjoying the content. It is something to WORK on, not rush to finish. I did not even ONCE say anything about finishing relics BEFORE 2.0. Just that people still need stuff from Hamlet (GEAR TOO, its not all about seals) and it would be nice to have more opportunities to work on the content and not be limited by it not being Rank 2.

then instead of turning in 1 mil farm a little longer and turn in 3 mil and that makes it to rank 2 all by yourself. i know if i've done that solo multiple times myself than others can with a group helping them. also do it on the weekends when the majority do the hamlets and you are going to get rank 2 with or without your help. finally if you have a member that just wants their seals you can always get them to turn in 100k or so during the week to get the top spot and get their 3 seals in 3 runs and be done with it for them.

[Miste]

do it on the weekends when the majority do the hamlets and you are going to get rank 2 with or without your help.

Today: Saturday October 6, 2012



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[Felis]

If you are on place 1 you can still get seals with hamlet rank 1
And how you can see on your picture you don't need always million points to get to place 1

[Miste]

If you are on place 1 you can still get seals with hamlet rank 1
And how you can see on your picture you don't need always million points to get to place 1

If you actually read what I said in this thread you would know that is not what the problem is. If you did not actually read the thread, do not reply! OK? Thanks lol.

[Thunderz]

Level 1 hamlet is just dumb I don't see the point of it. No reason to have that kind of system for hamlet

[Zumi]

Aren't hamlets being totally redone in 2.0 anyway. Because they didn't want craft jobs in battle type events.

[fusional]

and you're not understanding one major point, either. with the way things currently work, making rank 2 easier to get to in order to make militia gear easier to obtain also makes seals easier to obtain as well. that can't and won't happen.

so if militia gear is what you actually want, you're asking for the wrong solution. making rank 2 easier to get isn't the way. making militia gear easier to obtain with rank 1 *is*