I am really confused.

When is our character data being cut off? Originally they said 1st November, with shutdown on 11th, now they're saying 11th with game possibly being up after (at it will be).

So is it the 1st or 11th?
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/55751
November 11, 2012, even if none of the character data accumulated beyond that date
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...e57e858ee82098
November 1, 2012 (Thursday) Character data (including in-game progress) will not be saved after this date.
am I missing something?