Whats the point of AF and other drops if you can buy/craft better?

[Dzian]

So much fail in this post, most melds can only beat one stat in raid gear that's like saying my triple meld vit body for pld is better than HDL body cause it has a lot of vit on it.... Most people go on thinking that meld gear beats all raid stuff which is crap, it's just they can't beat the content or never got it cause of RNG(like me).

In some cases alot of the drop stuff is shit. dark light cowl is pretty cack for a blm it restricts you from wearing hats and thus for what it offers it becomes cack. the af body and a double melded int hat hell even militia 100% drop hat would do more for you than the cowl. refresh is nice sure but it's an exensive refresh when it's costing you potentially 30-40 intelligence on a hat / possible militia robe combo.

The heavy flanchard i think is kioverrated. given that it restricts shoes. i get better stats from my milita trousers and sentinal feet double hp meld..

HD flanchard
DEF 218, HP+140, Enmity+25, Vit+12, Dex+12, Evasion-20, Magic Evasion+10, Cannot equip gear to feet

Militia Trousers / Sentinals combo
Def 138, HP+100, MP+50, Vit+15, Mnd+15, Accuracy+5, Spell Interrupt Resistance+50
Def 70, HP+147, Vit+3, Enmity+9
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Def 208, HP+247, MP+50, Vit+18, Mnd+15, Acc+5, Emnity+9, Spell interrupt+50

given the attrocious drop rates of darklight it's just not worth the hassle of even bothering with when compared with the two items above. people say the militia trousers have horrible drop rates but i've seen more pairs of trousers than i've seen all dl drops combined and i've done less hamlets than ive done av/ccs.

as it stands alot of darklight is highly overrated and purely for ePeenery. or thats my take on it anyway.

[darkstarpoet1]

No battle class has under 3 pieces where materia gear isn't potentially the best. If you really want to argue as a crafter stop calling it 13 slots too because rings and wrists are almost 90% of the time CRAFTED gear.

nvm, i decided that after looking over your history i understand why you would believe that lmao. it would help to have beliefs so far off when it's because the experience is...... lacking.

explain to me what 3 pieces that are crafted with materia for a tanking war or pld and i will sit back and wait. i'll even let you use accessories if it helps you make a case. now if you want me to take away using accessories name me more than 1(belt) for a tank and i'll wait on that as well.

btw, since you love to say 90% lacking it's very seldom that you see a well geared person not wearing multiple pieces of dropped/grand company accessories. once again, i can understand your lack of understanding and will overlook you not knowing, but had to point out the issues with your math that doesn't add up.

[Montijin]

nvm, i decided that after looking over your history i understand why you would believe that lmao. it would help to have beliefs so far off when it's because the experience is...... lacking.

explain to me what 3 pieces that are crafted with materia for a tanking war or pld and i will sit back and wait. i'll even let you use accessories if it helps you make a case. now if you want me to take away using accessories name me more than 1(belt) for a tank and i'll wait on that as well.

btw, since you love to say 90% lacking it's very seldom that you see a well geared person not wearing multiple pieces of dropped/grand company accessories. once again, i can understand your lack of understanding and will overlook you not knowing, but had to point out the issues with your math that doesn't add up.

I won't even indulge your silly request of accessories.
pld in general for garuda, cc, av etc using a str/mnd build (the correct build): mnd helm, str/vit pants, enmity belt, str gloves or acc gloves, hp feet

War for tanking garuda, cc, av, etc using a dps build (the correct build): str gloves, str/vit pants, crit attack belt

And I'm not going to even get into if you don't have a relic, because clearly melded gear could beat Garuda's on axe, shield and sword.

[darkstarpoet1]

I won't even indulge your silly request of accessories.
pld in general for garuda, cc, av etc using a str/mnd build (the correct build): mnd helm, str/vit pants, enmity belt, str gloves or acc gloves, hp feet

War for tanking garuda, cc, av, etc using a dps build (the correct build): str gloves, str/vit pants, crit attack belt

And I'm not going to even get into if you don't have a relic, because clearly melded gear could beat Garuda's on axe, shield and sword.

yeah.......mhm.......that's the "correct build" for the best set a tank can wear.

the reason i asked that is because there is no "best set" for a tank. different encounters require different gear setups. if you are wearing the same setup for every encounter minus the full hdl set with melded emnity belt and relic then you are vastly gimping the potential dps your dd's can do. other than that set you will be changing gear to be the optimal setup for each type of encounter and even different runs within the same dungeon.

[Montijin]

yeah.......mhm.......that's the "correct build" for the best set a tank can wear.

Yes, explain to us how its wrong. I'll take HP+30 STR+104 gauntlets over Heavy DL gauntlets, STR+54 VIT+56 legs with HP+375 Enmity+9 sabatons over Heavy DL flanchard.

What are you going to wear better for belt?

What head piece or head/body combo is going to be better then sent celata with 5 MND+20 materias on them?

[darkstarpoet1]

Yes, explain to us how its wrong. I'll take STR+100 Bracers over Heavy DL gauntlets, STR+54 VIT+56 legs with HP+375 Enmity+9 sabatons over Heavy DL flanchard.

1. remember you do have caps so no matter how much materia you add that over a certain point it becomes worthless.

2. like i stated above different encounters require different setups to be optimal.

3. even within like cc/av there's different gear setups depending on how you want the run. safe completion hp build/ basic speed a dps build works/ and a 17 min you want as much emnity as you can get.

[Montijin]

1. remember you do have caps so no matter how much materia you add that over a certain point it becomes worthless.

2. like i stated above different encounters require different setups to be optimal.

3. even within like cc/av there's different gear setups depending on how you want the run. safe completion hp build/ basic speed a dps build works/ and a 17 min you want as much emnity as you can get.

So what your saying is that materia gear is the best option for an endgame activity in multiple slots? k.

[moriandrio]

No battle class has under 3 pieces where materia gear isn't potentially the best. If you really want to argue as a crafter stop calling it 13 slots too because rings and wrists are almost 90% of the time CRAFTED gear.

Nope thats just not true, alot battleclasses have some decent acceccoires that are not CRAFTED. For Example all the BLM stuff from Uldah. And even if its 50% of the slots i don't see where the Problem is. In many other games crafters just needed for buffs, here they really have an important role and everyone is whining....

[darkstarpoet1]

So what your saying is that materia gear is the best option for an endgame activity? k.

no when i consider endgame is doing the hardest part of a piece of content. between getting a basic completion, a 25 min run, and a 17 min run which is harder? it's the 17 and to do that you want the emnity build which is only 1 piece of gear that has melds on it.

[Montijin]

no when i consider endgame is doing the hardest part of a piece of content. between getting a basic completion, a 25 min run, and a 17 min run which is harder? it's the 17 and to do that you want the emnity build which is only 1 piece of gear that has melds on it.

Pretty sure Flat blade combo build from materia gear is going to crush Darklight for Garuda (which apparently might not be endgame since you didn't list it) but ok.

Also pretty sure that enmity+125 on belt would free up your missing enmity from not wearing DL and then the next thing you could do to help your group would be to put out more damage which would come from uh.... guess what? Materia gear.