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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    This post just furthers my point even further. We know a lot already, there's only so much they can tell us.. the rest is just a "wait and see" thing.

    People are being blind by launch in 2010. Graphics do not make games, Play FFXIII if you think that, because that's what that game was all about but the game itself was bare. Same thing here except its an MMO.

    In fact, I don;t want them to tell us everything, because if they did, it wouldn't make the launch of the game exciting. I rather things to come as a surprise, then to tell us all now and then its not as exciting because the surprise factor is gone.

    I'm not stopping you from thinking the way you are, do what you like. However, when the game is way better then what your making it out to be ( another failure by your tone), you will surely be way surprised then, and didn't give Yoshida hard long days without any sleep work any thought and all.

    Things we know already:

    -Crystal tower
    - 3 Story Arcs (Garland/Primal/7th Umbra era)
    - Golden Saucer
    - New Genders for races
    - New summons
    - New Job/class
    - New overhauled areas + New areas I'm sure
    - PvP (Frontlines etc)
    - Chocobos/mounts can jump
    - New Mounts
    - Dungeons will be 3 times as large as they are now
    - Lots of New Quests
    - Roaming Primals
    - Free Companies ( With a Ranking System)
    - Housing system ( each area will have it's own theme)
    - Content finder ( to make content easier to find when you don't have a lot of time)
    - Limit Break
    - Summons you obtain in a free company can be used by filling up a bar and using it before time limit is up)

    So many things to be "excited" that I'm not going to list them all, just people being blind to not see them all.
    only 6 things in that list are confirmed at launch, the rest is up in the air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmonte View Post
    only 6 things in that list are confirmed at launch, the rest is up in the air.
    I'm looking at the game as a whole, not whats going to be at launch. Don't be so "fixed" on the Launch.. look at the game as a whole, the end result of the fruits of Yoshida's vision.
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  3. #503
    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    I'm looking at the game as a whole, not whats going to be at launch. Don't be so "fixed" on the Launch.. look at the game as a whole, the end result of the fruits of Yoshida's vision.
    Yes..you're looking at the game as a whole, but what you're not looking at is the game that it'll be at launch, which is what 99% of the people will be looking at, not down the road where ARR may or may not even exist.

    Gaining and keeping people is the first and most important step.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmonte View Post
    SE has failed to deliver time and time again, any expectations i have for XIV "ARR" way below normal. Give me Something to be optimistic about.
    curious, what will make you optimistic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    I'm looking at the game as a whole, not whats going to be at launch. Don't be so "fixed" on the Launch.. look at the game as a whole, the end result of the fruits of Yoshida's vision.
    As a whole, it looks alright, but really, I mean really? WHY DID THE IT FAIL THE FIRST TIME!?! IT WAS INCOMPLETE!

    WHY IS GW2 dropping off already!? it's incomplete! I can list mmo after mmo

    Right now, if they wanna add ALL that stuff, it's going to be 2 years out. They should just go off the radar for now till another year. Then show us something we can be excited for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    curious, what will make you optimistic?
    A Successful Launch that holds its subscriber base longer than 3 months, from what im seeing people will start dropping off in about 2. We played this bare bones game first, content later card...it didnt work so well for tanaka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    As a whole, it looks alright, but really, I mean really? WHY DID THE IT FAIL THE FIRST TIME!?! IT WAS INCOMPLETE!

    WHY IS GW2 dropping off already!? it's incomplete! I can list mmo after mmo

    Right now, if they wanna add ALL that stuff, it's going to be 2 years out. They should just go off the radar for now till another year. Then show us something we can be excited for.
    This is why I don't truly respond to you :/.

    Edit: There's going to be a lot of content than people think at launch + PvP will keep them occupied. This is a 'Relaunch' not a Launch. There are certain things being kept in ARR. That's why they said "90% is being thrown away. the other "10%" will be in ARR.

    This is to be expected from people who have the mindset of 2010.
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    Last edited by Starlord; 09-27-2012 at 02:03 AM.

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    A relaunch has higher mountains to climb than an initial launch.
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  9. #509
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    Comparing the graphics


    FFXIV now




    then






    more details in the environment
    the details within the environment of Thanalon now (missing many vegetation)

    then (with many cactuars,grass, bushes and tracks etc. in it)



    what happened? for me the world of ARR is seeming much more lively in the end. i really enjoy that fact.. with that in background having many "sightseeing stuff" in their hands.

    you just got blind over the years, like me.
    well i enjoy the much more lively details in ARR much more than the boring environment which we have right now in the current version.

    that was a very much negative aspect of FFXIV .. but you seem to almost forgot about it. do you forgot that thanalan looks almost the same in front of the gates of ul'dah through the whole zone? it looks just all the same... im not exploring thanalan, because there is nothing to explore.

    and thats why i'm happy about playing finally ARR.. it has zones with loadscreens, yeah but we have things to recognize.
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 09-27-2012 at 02:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    As a whole, it looks alright, but really, I mean really? WHY DID THE IT FAIL THE FIRST TIME!?! IT WAS INCOMPLETE!

    WHY IS GW2 dropping off already!? it's incomplete! I can list mmo after mmo

    Right now, if they wanna add ALL that stuff, it's going to be 2 years out. They should just go off the radar for now till another year. Then show us something we can be excited for.
    Weird...it shows your join date for the forums as March 2011, and you have Lodestone achievements from September 2010...yet Final Fantasy XIV wasn't complete at that time either. In fact, it was far from finished, even by the standard of the current patch.

    The game being incomplete was clearly not a problem before, so it shouldn't be one now. Not everything has to be a big deal. You are aware of this, right?
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