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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    it works for limiting sp parties and things along those lines yes


    but they are looking at actual content now and 15 man parties will create horrible balance in that compared to that of a smaller variety
    thats the true purpose of this change
    What are you on about? Did 18 man parties cause horrible imbalances in 11? Again, my contention is they need to add alliances so people with LS's that hunt NMs can actually ban together and do the only thing in the game that actually gives us a reason to group up.

    Party SP needed to be cut down for sure. Hell, I think it should go to the traditional 6 man group. However, again I say, if they cut off the only reason to party together in a worthwhile aspect then they're cutting off their noses to spite their face - again.

    As it is right now, you don't need 16 members to take down these lol'NMs but at least its something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    What are you on about? Did 18 man parties cause horrible imbalances in 11? Again, my contention is they need to add alliances so people with LS's that hunt NMs can actually ban together and do the only thing in the game that actually gives us a reason to group up.

    Party SP needed to be cut down for sure. Hell, I think it should go to the traditional 6 man group. However, again I say, if they cut off the only reason to party together in a worthwhile aspect then they're cutting off their noses to spite their face - again.

    As it is right now, you don't need 16 members to take down these lol'NMs but at least its something.
    18 man parties?
    or do you mean 6 man parties 3 of them combined into an alliance

    you see they can still add this sort of thing, but limiting the BASE party size is what they are doing right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    18 man parties?
    or do you mean 6 man parties 3 of them combined into an alliance

    you see they can still add this sort of thing, but limiting the BASE party size is what they are doing right now
    Yes, I did say alliance in what you quoted me and also explained thats my only concern. Making parties 16 man I complained about from day 1. However, unless SE says the word alliance I have been well trained by them to expect the worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    Yes, I did say alliance in what you quoted me and also explained thats my only concern. Making parties 16 man I complained about from day 1. However, unless SE says the word alliance I have been well trained by them to expect the worse.
    at this point im more inclined to "wait and see" where they go with all this rather then assume anything
    remember, these are the start of changes being made, not the end all

    so there is going to be more behind it coming up and we shall see it all as it gets added

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    at this point im more inclined to "wait and see" where they go with all this rather then assume anything
    remember, these are the start of changes being made, not the end all

    so there is going to be more behind it coming up and we shall see it all as it gets added

    All I have to say is I hope you're right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    All I have to say is I hope you're right.
    i dont have to be right or wrong, its already been stated many times in letter from the producers whats going on

    we know for a fact these are the starts of changes to the combat system(as stated in the last letter)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    i dont have to be right or wrong, its already been stated many times in letter from the producers whats going on
    Oh? Maybe you could point out to the rest of us were it says you will be able to make alliances or the equivalent?
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