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  1. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    But fish is cheaper.
    And easier to procure, but nevermind the minor details I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET 4K EXP FROM (INSERT) AT ALL LEVELS!
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  2. #52
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    Sheep. . . Complete Sheep.

    Complain when it is something YOU can do to. . . The funny part is you post what people are doing on a FFXIV forum RAN BY S.E!! Super-genius!!

    1st they take Crystals, Now the lower the price of GC Items to 1 gil. Keep going guys, you will soon enough have the game you want . . .
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    Welcome to The Locker!!

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    lol u so mad
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  4. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Emine View Post
    lol u so mad
    My butt even hurt a little.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I was saying the real defintion of the word is funny. You didnt get it so I told you the defintion. I have confused nothing.

    Also I've been telling you the same defintion you just told me what game explotation is.

    They specifically say they didnt intend for that much gil to come in, by defintion we have an exploit.
    I truly don't understand your position.

    How can it possibly be an exploit if they expected people to make money off of this? They expected it. Yoshi said so himself. They let it happen. They specifically created the situation in which it was possible to do.

    How is that, in any universe, an exploit?

    I just don't get it, Shougun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Its wrong only because its making too much money. Since npc's basically print money - the game is printing too much money right now. The game relies on a lot of sinks and trading of hands to keep gil down.

    There is a big difference when your boss pays you with circulated money, or if he just printed the money right there for you.

    So now there is too much money in circulation, most of that money will disappear on 2.0. So why does it matter? the money wont stay on these people pockets, it will end up on someone's else, maybe it isnt such a bad thing that there is more buying/selling, there are a lot of items that nobody ever buys because they have no money for it, and so the items stay in the market for months in a row. At least now they can be bought.

    I start to think people are so upset just because there is a lot more rich players now, and so more people will have nice items, making the old rich/geared not so special.


    How I see it, people with more money means being able to get better items, which means, more Garuda runs, ifrit hard, and other hard battles, and so more fun for everyone.
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  7. #57
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    Better late than never I suppose.

    Hopefully, along with the 1/10th gil reduction in 2.0 things will stabilize.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    My butt even hurt a little.
    tell me more ... wait.. aren't you a guy? <_<; Sorry couldnt resist. XD

    On a serious Note:

    People should drop this Topic allready.. its getting worse than grass-threads.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    And easier to procure, but nevermind the minor details I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET 4K EXP FROM (INSERT) AT ALL LEVELS!
    You still can, if you want to waste more gil for the same exp.
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    I truly don't understand your position.

    How can it possibly be an exploit if they expected people to make money off of this? They expected it. Yoshi said so himself. They let it happen. They specifically created the situation in which it was possible to do.

    How is that, in any universe, an exploit?

    I just don't get it, Shougun.
    Exploits arent like hacks or something.. They happen because of oversight.

    If I set the sell price of an item to 100 and the buy price to 50. (and it was an accident) I just created an exploit, totally allowed by the system.

    They said more gil is coming in then expected. They really meant it because they did a hotfix twice, thats how bad it was.

    I get you saying they may have expected SOME money to come in. But you cant say they intended that much to come in because they SAID they didnt intend it.

    If I intended a system where you make 100 gil but you made 10,000 gil - even though I inteded money I didnt intended that much - its an exploit.

    *Also is important that they didnt want it. Sometimes things happen that weren't indented but are a pleasant surprise. Obviously doing a hotfix means it wasn't pleasant.


    ----- @ Vogue
    You cant assume everyone is going to put the money into the gil sink - because it takes time for the normal sinks to work (taxes). Most of it will either be sold by RMT's, traded hands, or horded.

    It will effect the market, even if ever so silently.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 09-21-2012 at 09:11 AM.

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