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  1. #41
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    Eiz Zvahk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alegis View Post
    It wasnt much shorter than other ways to obtain gil, and not even less annoying.
    I bought dawn drops too after i had no (useful) items left to buy, but not because it was the best way to make gil, i did it because i did work on my Seals achievements which i had to spent seals for to earn new ones.

    The money i made through this is a very small percentage of what i earned in the 2 years before and now someone like you is telling us most of it should be deleted just because u dont have that much.
    Dont tell me its because u think it wasnt legit or something like that. Its because ur pissed that ppl have more than u.

    In all those years of playing MMORPGs i NEVER used any bot program or tried to get an advantage out of Bugs/exploits and i dont let you call me an exploiter just because u were to lazy to use something SE KNEW about.

    Its clearly said by Yoshi-P that they knew about this methods to make gil out of seals and that they just were surprised that ppl spent that much time on it to get a use out of it.
    That's a fallacy. The amount of money he/she has or the time he/she spent making money for the last two years doesn't prove if that's legit or not. If you want to call it other way: Another person dedicated to making money through any of the traditional methods, wouldn't made that amount of money per hour.
    Seals farm is just another device to make money. Just as gathering, crafting, farming, instanced areas, etc. They planned it that way, but unlike the other methods, they didn't expected that disproportionate gains. So was unbalanced and so they are fixing it.
    Obviously is not like to duplicate drops in Salvage, which was a manifest bug and everyone knew it, but strictly speaking still a exploit. Even if you were not aware of the disarrangement of this method, from the moment they fix it, they recognize something went in an unexpected manner and EULA is clear about that.
    However I don't think it should be punishable in any way, although affected many people. Just bad luck, another black stain like garuda issue. What if you came late to take profit? just fuck you, nobody cares about Garuda now, so GTFO...

    Sad but it's life.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Click this link and you'll find your answer:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...omos-Solution.
    Not to sling mud at SE, but any other top tier MMO franchise wouldn't have taken a whole week off with no developer support staff.

    And don't get me wrong - I'm not saying they didn't deserve the time off. I think I was just trying to convey the point in my previous, rather sarcastic, question that SE sometimes takes a while to respond to issues.
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  3. #43
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    Arthur Highwind
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    This is what OP really means
    Quote Originally Posted by seuki View Post
    Please cap the gil in 2.0 to just above what I have. What I have should be the most anyone should be allowed to have. This would help with the fact atomos gave players a lot of gil but it will still make me happy because none of my gil is taken away which, in the end, is all I care about.
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  4. #44
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    Alegis Leqarna
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    Everything gets fixed over time in an MMO. But u wouldnt call the use of an ability an exploit/bug because it isnt well balanced and is getting fixed/nerfed, would you?

    I dont say the incredible amount of gil/seals as reward were good but to call it an exploit is just wrong.
    I dont call everyone an exploiter, just because they got 10+ million out of it while i didnt, too.
    Most who do, are just pissed because they werent able to make a profit out of it (because they were lazy or busy).
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    Last edited by Alegis; 09-21-2012 at 07:53 AM.

  5. #45
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    It's cool, all that gil they made off Atomos will filter it's way down into my pocket eventually. They will have more money to pay more for my products.
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  6. #46
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    Irwin Fletcher
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    I know we do not know the details of housing, but I expect a TON of gil will be removed from the game. We will need to buy our land from an NPC of some type. We also heard Yoshi say you will be able to purchase large tracks of land for an enormous amount of gil. Just because you don't know about the remedy yet does not mean there is not one. From what I have seen Yoshi has done a very good job turning this game round.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    It's cool, all that gil they made off Atomos will filter it's way down into my pocket eventually. They will have more money to pay more for my products.
    And then you get more money to spend on other people's things that are marked up. It's a vicious cycle that's going to put more money into people's pockets that shouldn't have originally been there.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    And then you get more money to spend on other people's things that are marked up. It's a vicious cycle that's going to put more money into people's pockets that shouldn't have originally been there.
    I'm mostly self sufficient so not really. I think the most expensive thing I've ever bought was around 700k. I certainly won't be purchasing any "marked up" products that's for sure. I've put my relic quest on hold until V2 for this reason. Kinda expecting double melded gear prices to crash when the value of materia changes. Yoshi already hinted it might. I'd be undercutting like crazy right now if I owned any high value materia items.
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  9. #49
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    Inflation never happens in a vacuum.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    Hmm, it's a bad attitude to convey you didn't take advantage of a game mechanic that was unintended?

    /scratches head

    I'm right there with you Nel. I haven't even participated in the Atomos event yet, mostly because I'm doing other things. I heard about the "exploit" (that term's still up for debate) from an LS member shortly after the event started, and I just shrugged my shoulders and went off playing my other game. Sure, I could have taken advantage of it, but I took the moral high ground and decided not to.
    It's the blatant "you're all explotiers, wah wah wah" attitude, which unfortuantly floods these forums. You should get some head and shoulders for that scalp by the way
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