New NMs

[ApplePie]

I want NMs do be on a six hour spawn. Some on an hour spawn. MAYBE one or two on a 24 hour spawn BUT not a claim system, a force-spawn system. Something like "you are locked out of spawning this NM for 24 more hours." I don't want to go back to the days of drama over dalmatica and ridill... I had a dalmatica and it made me no more hardcore compared to the players who didn't have it. I had the time to camp it which they didn't. Hardcore isn't about "Oh, I can sit at my pc for 48 hours at a time before subcoming to sleep deprivation and hunger pains." It is being able to kill that difficult monster, being able to push my character to the limits, and being able to learn how to adapt your character and to test different things with you character like stats/gear/m.def. True hard core players know this; the hipster "name-sake" hard core gamers.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

No one is saying not to make them hard....but eventually they WONT be hard once you kill it 5 times over...Hence why you need some type of restricting second layer...IE: 24hr spawns, random pops in different maps, etc...

No one is arguing on the difficulty, you just need to make sure that you add something else other than that. Dodore was hard, for a week...lol.

which limits ppl who can't stay up 24 hrs aday. thanks but no thanks guys. Stop trying to make this game into ffxi. If ffxi was do epic, why the heck is it going thru a second server merger.... barely 2 years after the first.

[Sojiro]

No one is saying not to make them hard....but eventually they WONT be hard once you kill it 5 times over...Hence why you need some type of restricting second layer...IE: 24hr spawns, random pops in different maps, etc...

No one is arguing on the difficulty, you just need to make sure that you add something else other than that. Dodore was hard, for a week...lol.

So the next step is to create a barrier where most people won't even see the encounter unless they stand around for hours on end and even then most likely not get a claim? I guess i'd be ok with random pops across the entire zone so we don't see claim bots, although i'd agree save it for much later when there is more stuff for people to do. I'd still rather see, a triggerable pop that can only be done once a day/guildleve reset/week/month/whatever so everyone can have the "chance" to even fight it.

[Corrderio]

People will camp it, LS will have people in all zones looking for it.. You need to make it hard+rare spawn / restriction to amount of times you can do it (Odin is a great example).

And then when bots are able to detect them like DI/Sandworm, it's going to be a sh*tfest.

[Moth]

What are you a WOW vegetable?
There is a HUGE difference between a 'skilled and dedicated gamer" and someone who does not have enough self-control and gets addicted to some MMO, or simply escapes his shitty RL to play a game.
I know people who were too busy to dump out, they shat them self infront of their screen....

Heh generic excuse from someone who is bad and can't handle 'da mmo -w-

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Have you ever played a real MMO? They pretty much envelop your life.

you need gameer AA and yes it does excist there is such thing as being addicted to video games you sound like a NEET or like the completely insane character from an anime about NEETs he was a tarutaru looking character in the animes mmo (which was a parody of ffxi) the guy was trying to get rich from rmt-ing his sister was part of a ponzi scheme who got arrested. And he relyed on her for food etc. he had crawled out of the house begging for food till he found a job.

I seen it happen irl also.... its sad.

[Scarface]

Make it 24hr with a 1 hr window, make it hard, and make it resistant to emulate. simple. Oh and make the drop rate under 5%.

[Zenaku]

players saying about bots we going to have them with 1hour or 24hours matter what.

[Randis]

Heh generic excuse from someone who is bad and can't handle 'da mmo -w-

I do not have to make excuses for having a RL, family, job, friends, hobbies, seing the world.
And dispite all that, if it comes to skill in gaming, i would take you apart in any fighting game.

24h camping ? pathetic

[Scarface]

And then when bots are able to detect them like DI/Sandworm, it's going to be a sh*tfest.

Yup, and LSs will camp them, with mules, or with bots...Only way to avoid competition is to make everything instanced. Simple.