No Arrows in ARR?!

[Rokien]

I'll fix it!!!



Hey, fun fact: IRL Government + Treasury Department= infinite CASH!!!

How's that for realism vs fantasy!? XD

I hope that isn't something towards obamas spending, because that would be stupid, considering he has one of the lowest government spending especially if you compare him to that non president G Bush(bush didn't win the presidency).

[Shougun]

I hope that isn't something towards obamas spending, because that would be stupid, considering he has one of the lowest government spending especially if you compare him to that non president G Bush(bush didn't win the presidency).

Aww man now we are on politics. Such a huge can of worms.

Lets go back to arrows, animations, and grass please.

(About the photo, I believe it was referring to the banks being payed not to fail like they already failed, I'm for Obama but I didnt take it personally - both parties spew up cash anyways lol).

[Rokien]

Aww man now we are on politics. Such a huge can of worms.

Lets go back to arrows, animations, and grass please.

he's the one that brought it up~

[Arcell]

Would you guys like it if other rpgs have infinate arrows? Like skyrim for example. It takes away from the immersion, being able to fire infinite arrows. This game is based on realism with fantasy where fantasy needs to be.

Tons of RPGs use infinite arrows and they do just fine. A lot of MMOs especially use infinite arrows. There's no point in them as a consumable, they have no special properties and there's no different types. We don't need them. Where "fantasy" needs to be is entirely subjective and FF has never really been heavily about realism.

Sure you substitute poison arrows with abilities. Though, it would be a lot cooler if you could switch arrows during mid fight on the fly. Thus leaving out the pointless abilities and adding different abilities to the mix.

A great many other games have done ammo buffs with great success. It's a good system, it works. It's also less messy than trying to switch ammo types during a real-time battle that's moving quickly. The only game I've seen pull this off is Monster Hunter but only because it has specialized controls for Gunners and even then it can get you killed.

It also leaves out a lot of other possibilities they could come up with. It's just pretty much tells me "yaaa, we think it's unfair that people have to buy arrows, we don't want you guys wasting gil! You guys already have millions, we don't want you to run out!"

Arrows were inexpensive and they were also not a pain to keep in stock either.

Well not only was it unfair to ranged players, it's an entirely useless mechanic. The only difference between arrows is the level. It's an needless mechanic that they're switching with one that works well.

"OH MY INVENTORY IS BEING EATEN UP BY ARROWS!" You can have 999 arrows in a stack, so you are only going to take up a few inventory spaces when you go out to adventure. Also, with the new system invintory shouldn't be a problem, especially if they are able to give your chocobo inventory space where you can store some of you're equipment and finds.

Oh you mean the inventory that's 100 spaces smaller than what we have now? Yeah, totally okay. /sarcasm

No, it's not "hard core" to buy arrows or to sell, what have you. It's a way to make money, it also keeps the "realism" that's left in the game, in check as well.

Let's also ask, how would a shooter be with infinite ammo? Pretty cheating if I do say so myself.

This isn't a shooter. Also shooters use ammo as a meaningful mechanic in the game. Arrows in FFXIV are not a meaningful mechanic.

It's also a great way to min-max. People who can max out their damage by buying more expencive arrows, GOOD. Don't make everyone equal because, nobody is equal.

Now people can min-max with weapons, gear, accessories, materia and character stats. I think we'll be fine.

[NoctisUmbra]

You guys are doing it wrong.

Stop responding to Rokien. People have been at him for months. You can't fix it.

Yeeaaaaaaa...

[Shougun]

Yeeaaaaaaa...

Doing it wrong sometimes feels so good.

[Starlord]

he's the one that brought it up~

HE DID IT!!~ *Points at random person* SEE HE STARTED IT! :P

[Rokien]

nonsense!

Jk, those are all good responses, probably the best I've seen you respond to any of my statements.
Though, they might as well make all consumables infinite if they make arrows so.


Though, I still don't see the issue with us having arrows with different effects and being able to switch em out whenever. Not that I've seen, nobody complained about having to buy arrows, and to ME it makes the game a little cheesy/cheap feel to it. The games that do do this, have a very cheap feel to em. GW2 for example.

[Rannie]

I would just like to say then that if it's realism you are wanting then you shouldn't be playing games to begin with go watch the news... that's about as realistic that you can get... because it's about *gasp* REAL THINGS!

[KaplanHomahru]

Jk, those are all good responses, probably the best I've seen you respond to any of my statements.
Though, they might as well make all consumables infinite if they make arrows so.


Though, I still don't see the issue with us having arrows with different effects and being able to switch em out whenever. Not that I've seen, nobody complained about having to buy arrows, and to ME it makes the game a little cheesy/cheap feel to it. The games that do do this, have a very cheap feel to em. GW2 for example.

No, consumables are for min/maxing or that extra little oomf or that "Oh Shi-!" moment and should not be infinite. Arrows are an integral part of arc/brd damage and should be. Stop comparing them