Yoshida-san - GLOBAL Servers and Balancing Tweaks Instead of Regional Servers

[Duelle]

Your attempt to downplay the importance of tearing apart the global community irks me a bit.

Your rose-colored goggles on this topic irk me even more, because we weren't exactly singing happy songs and holding hands with all Japanese players; we got along with some and ran into some "JP onry". I guess later we could have an irking contest to see which of us is most irked by the end of the day.

Almost all of the NA posts on the English forums are downright racist at times

Yawn.

it's not like many of you are shedding tears at the possibillity of a split in the community.

Depends on who you ask. I play this and played FFXI because they were online Final Fantasy games. I like the possibility of better storylines and I have always been fond of the Final Fantasy IP's job concepts.

On gameplay, yes, it is very important to me. Better gameplay means I can expect encounter mechanics to be more than just "stand there auto-attacking and WS when you hit 100 TP". Better gameplay means playing as that class/job can be a little more involved. International friends are nice, but their presence won't fix latency issues during boss fights or make abominations like cure-&-refresh-bitch Red Mage any less painful.

I understand some have friends in the EU and JP, and I'm sure that if you actually bothered to talk to them about this you can agree on where everyone will play once the nitty gritty on the server structure is revealed. Considering the forum communities managed to get themselves organized for this kind of thing (in case anyone forgot about that), I don't think linkshells and circles of friends doing something similar is that unrealistic or outlandish.

As I've said in the other thread about this, wouldn't be the first time someone chooses to play on a different region server to be with friends. We had two New Zealanders and an Australian in our WoW guild, aside from a bunch of EU people. Despite the latency difference, they chose to do so because they liked playing with us.

[Jynx]

I'll be moving to whatever server has the best global community because fuck lag. The community is more important than litteraly milleseconds of lag.

People blow the lag out of proportion when even the dev team admited most of the lag was caused server side due to too many checks on the server instead of the client.

[Alhanelem]

Why is global community so important to you, since it doesn't seem to be "friends" that is most important to you (given that you said "i'm going to whichever server has the most global community.")

Do you find it fun when JP go around saying JP Only, do you find it fun when people speak languages you don't understand? global community has some limited appeal for me, because it is nice when you ARE able to get along with people from other cultures, but when you get right down to it, you're all trying to play a game, and a better quality game experience (fuss over how much of a differece ping makes all you want) trumps the one or two japanese or french friends I might possibly make on a totally global community. While the multicultural environment has it's moments, when you're trying to get something done and all the shouts are in Japanese, you end up just sitting there while those Japanese people get out and accomplish stuff.

To me, the benefit of the regional freedom is if you actually do have friends from other parts of the world (like real friends, not game friends), you can play with them freely, without being locked out, unlike some games that don't let you play with people in other regions at all. And this will remain possible after regional servers become available.

Also what happened to you not passing judgement?

[Jynx]

Why is global community so important to you?

It's important to me because I enjoy playing with people from around the world. The JP onry issues are overblown and you know it, the lag issues are overblown and you know it, and the reaction of people who support the segregated servers complaining about people who care about it is overblown.

Let people show that they care or don't about a subject and stop tossing baseless vitrol at eachother. It's rediculous on both sides. I know where I stand and I find it utterly rediculous when people try to stunt conversation just because they don't agree with it.

Sure there are a few too many threads but who cares? Like people said don't like it don't post in it most of the discussion IS in one thread with a few outliers wanting a opinion that they feel needs it's own thread (They usually do talk about something other than just the servers themselves like there effect on the community or if the lag will really change.)

[Rokien]

Your rose-colored goggles on this topic irk me even more, because we weren't exactly singing happy songs and holding hands with all Japanese players; we got along with some and ran into some "JP onry". I guess later we could have an irking contest to see which of us is most irked by the end of the day.
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Huh funny, I've never had JP onry. Infact I got into parties that shouted "jp onry" in them. All you have to do is get YOUR stick out of you but, be nice, they will do the same. Jps have never had a problem with the Rokien.

oh that includes FFXI as well.

[Ikkenoe]

If you want to play reaction based difficult content you shouldn't be playing an MMO in the first place, especially one with Final Fantasy in the title.

you know how i know you've never raided seriously in WoW or any other MMOs?

[JGwinters]

I'm in the same boat as Jynx really, I play at such oddball times that change at a moment's notice on a semi-weekly basis that no other option is good for me other than truly global servers. I'm very disappointed in being forced into regional ones.

[Alhanelem]

It's important to me because I enjoy playing with people from around the world.

Why do you enjoy this so much? What's so much better about playing with a person from <insert country here> compared to your own? What do they have that anyone else doesn't?

The JP onry issues are overblown and you know it,

While I've been in a few parties with JP players and they generally go well, It wasn't really any more fun than playing with people whom I can understand. And I can take a screenshot of my chatlong anytime after midnight eastern and show you why most people are happy for regional servers. It's just an endless stream of squiggles that 99% of non-japanese don't even understand how to read, much less know what the symbols actually mean. Again, while this doesn't explicitly BOTHER me, I would be able to get a lot more done if I saw some shouts for events I need. I often look at the JP shouts and can't help but wonder what fights they're doing that I need but I don't know it so I can't even ask if they need help because they rarely use auto translate.

the lag issues are overblown and you know it,

The lag issues are not overblown at all. physical location is only one part of why the game lags, yes, but it's a flat out lie to say that the game doesn't have substantial lag issues.

I'm very disappointed in being forced into regional ones.

you're not being forced into regional ones, you can still join any server regardless of region. If you play at oddball times, then just join an EU server if you're NA or a JP server otherwise. Bam, instant players online during your oddball time. Heck, probably even more reliably than you have now.

Regional servers does not mean "servers will be dead from X time to Y time." There are always people who are active at oddball times like you are, because everyone comes from different walks of life and are active at different times. Additionally, you aren't going to be forced to go anywhere. You'll still be on whatever server you're on now when 2.0 comes online, unless you specifically choose to switch.
Of all the reasons to want things to stay the way they are now, this has to be the least valid one.

[Zumi]

It seems as though that some people can't except the fact that there are people like me who prefer to play on a regional server over the way it is set up now. I am happy they are setting up regional datacenters.

The pros for me is less lag, I will know the majority of people speak English and easier time finding groups to do stuff with. I have played other games and really like it when I can send someone a tell and know they will understand what I am telling them.

[Jynx]

What do they have that anyone else doesn't?

This has to be the worst argument against have global servers I have ever heard. It's great to be able to exposed from people with different experiences and cultures.

you're not being forced into regional ones, you can still join any server regardless of region. If you play at oddball times, then just join an EU server if you're NA or a JP server otherwise. Bam, instant players online during your oddball time.

Looks like you don't understand what me or him are saying. We don't just play at oddball hours, our hours of play change very frequently. So no matter what server we pick we are at a massive disadvantage when it comes to finding people to play with allready, we have now cut that chance to near nothingness.

We can't afford to skip servers everytime our work or life events change.