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  1. #371
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    Croy's Avatar
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    Allard Barrows
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    Hyperion
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Loony_BoB View Post
    I can't stress just how annoyed I am about this. I have friends in Australia and North America who bought the game in the past month or two so they could play it with me after I convinced them for months and months. And now they're being segregated, along with the other people from the states (Hawaii included), Brazil, Canada, Australia that are already in my LS. This is literally tearing up a family we have built up amongst each other and I'm gutted. I also have been told by many others that they were going to buy once 2.0 is out and play with me, and that's not going to happen now, either. I'm just plain gutted. None of them will pick an EU server for the very obvious reason and it's not lag. It's the fact that it will never really be busy during their time's peak hours. They will not be able to put together parties when we're all asleep or working! Arrrrgh. So damned annoyed. Why, SE? Why? My poor friends, my e-family!
    For the last time no one, I repeat NO ONE is getting segregated, period. Our old servers will exist the same as always, one server might have its data center no longer based in Japan and that's it. Did you people throw this type of tantrum when Ragnarok went live, did you throw this type of tantrum when new servers went live and some friends decided to transfer to it in FFXI? This is the worst that is going to happen, people are not forced to become segregated, they will choose it of their own free will if they decide community vs lag. This would have happened anyways when more language and region preferred servers went live (Which we have known for more then a year there would be), instead we get a bonus! now not every NA and EU needs to be second best lag vs Japanese players, they have a choice when they didn't have one before, stop being so selfish about this people would have left anyways for the language specific servers when they went live anyways. If people are happy in their community, they will stay, those that aren't will move and there isn't anything you or I can do about it other then make server transfers impossible, never opening new servers and never merging servers.
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  2. #372
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    Jeronlmo's Avatar
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    Jeronlmo Sai
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    All of this stuff is very true, but no one is hitting the endgame portion of this... latency is a negative in pvp and pve endgame, if you dont go to NA server, and your NA, your gimp to your ls, simple fact, you are. If i go to a JP server (which i would prefer) i would have lag they would not, and I would never do well in pvp, and cause wipes in pve.
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  3. #373
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    Shura's Avatar
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    Shura Raizen
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lirion View Post
    I also payed for a MMO game that should give me the best possbile MMO experience, and I can tell you that 1.0 did absolutely not deliver that. The servers we have now are not going away, you can stay on your server if you want but no player should have to suffer the lag they get because the server they're on is on the other side of the planet just because you want everyone on the same server.
    Love all the exaggeration about server lag, there is lag in the game and but majority of it is caused by the core engine that tries to confirm everything server side, this was a feature they added to counter RMT but ended up screwing everyone else over it, SE admitted it and said that was one of the main reasons they are changing the engine. You guys make it sound as if the server lag is so bad that if u try to move the game crashes. Also your right you did pay for it, but you payed for a international/global mmo so you should get the best possible experience for a international/global MMO. Based on your justification, i should be able to buy a FPS game and complain its not a racing game.
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  4. #374
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    Holy_Dragoon's Avatar
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    Holy Dragoon
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    From the looks of this so far, our LS will be impacted. Heck our leadership is 50/50 EU/NA. LS discussion imminent.
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  5. #375
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shura View Post
    Love all the exaggeration about server lag, there is lag in the game and but majority of it is caused by the core engine that tries to confirm everything server side, this was a feature they added to counter RMT but ended up screwing everyone else over it, SE admitted it and said that was one of the main reasons they are changing the engine. You guys make it sound as if the server lag is so bad that if u try to move the game crashes. Also your right you did pay for it, but you payed for a international/global mmo so you should get the best possible experience for a international/global MMO. Based on your justification, i should be able to buy a FPS game and complain its not a racing game.
    Now THIS doesn't make sense, how the fuck did you get my post to "Based on your justification, i should be able to buy a FPS game and complain its not a racing game."?

    And you have no idea how much lag I suffer from this game, getting R0 all the time, so don't give me that shit about exaggeration.

    No one of us have played ARR and no one knows how bad the lag will be for a EU player on a JP server, sure you can say it went alright when yoshi played it at gamescom but they were like 4 players on the server. How do you think it would have been if there were thousands online?

    All the servers are still international, you can play on any of the servers but who are you to decide if I should play on a server based in Japan or one in EU? If I can get the best possible experience by picking the server in EU then I should be able to pick the server in EU no matter what the original idea Tanaka had. You gotta remember that this is a new game with a new producer. If you want to stay on your server, stay on your server, if your friends want to change to a server at their location they should have every right to do so.
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    Last edited by Lirion; 09-15-2012 at 04:20 AM.

  6. #376
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    TheRac25's Avatar
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    Krell Ynjynor
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    Excalibur
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    Fisher Lv 50
    i bet the JP are like hell yes jponry sever
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  7. #377
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    Yeah JP probably doesn't care at all.
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  8. #378
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    Overall this is a good thing for the game. Yes, it's going to create some segregation, and yes some of you will lose friends. If you played XI, didn't you lose friends when server migration would open up once in a while? I did, in fact I even had to choose between Linkshells like some of us may have to do when ARR is launched. It's simply unavoidable.

    It wouldn't surprise me at all if the majority of players will accept the change with open arms and people here complaining are in the minority (usually the forums community is a minority compared to those playing). This really is a non-issue.

    For those wondering how cross-regional content finding would work, it could be as simple as having the instanced hosted by the party leader's server, then giving the player a choice to only be in a pool of certain regions. Simple.

    For those questioning why can't it just be like XI? Well the JP regional servers will be. You'll still be connecting to a hub that then has to get/send data to the server in japan (this is simplified). There really isn't anything different there; there's no magic behind it. So if you want an experience like XI, play on a JP regional server, I'm sure a lot of others will be.

    Just remember that SE is giving players what they asked for. They're not making anyone move servers, that will be of their own choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkillumina View Post
    Friends are temporary. Lag is forever.
    Favorite post in the whole thread. You get all my Likes.
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  9. #379
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    Kerwin Nindon
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 90
    I play on odd hours. If I go with a sever located in my country I'll be screwed because i cant play peak time. If I go any other server Ill get lag. :/

    Damnit this really bothers me. Just remembering the lag we have now for Atomos and teleported already makes me sick.
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  10. #380
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    Solef Dico
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    Masamune
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    From the looks of this so far, our LS will be impacted. Heck our leadership is 50/50 EU/NA. LS discussion imminent.
    My Ls too sadly we are from all regions EU/NA/ASIA
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