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  1. #381
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    Faiyez's Avatar
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    ITT, drama!
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  2. #382
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    Loony_BoB's Avatar
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    Loony Bob
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    Quote Originally Posted by Croy View Post
    This is the worst that is going to happen, people are not forced to become segregated, they will choose it of their own free will if they decide community vs lag.
    Community vs. Lag or Community vs. Timing? If people start to choose to split, the damage is done and the floodgates will open up. It's about the timing of when you play. I can play with my LS all day and always have people active because I've made an effort to get to know people from all regions. If the server was guaranteed to be active all day around, I wouldn't give a rat's arse how much lag there would be. I play for the community and for the people. I play because I know no matter what time I get on, I can hook up with a party of friends, and I have a lot of them. Now we are being split. What's to like about that? Perhaps you play for endgame content and being able to do things hardcore and get off plumes perfectly at all times, but I would prefer to hang around with all the fantastic people I have met in the game. To do that, now, I will have to level on multiple servers and I simply don't have that kind of time available to me.
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  3. #383
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon View Post
    From the looks of this so far, our LS will be impacted. Heck our leadership is 50/50 EU/NA. LS discussion imminent.
    You guys are forgetting servers are not region locked. You can pick a server and say were are going to play on server X. Then everyone in your ls can go to that server.
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  4. #384
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    Rjain's Avatar
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    "Hey guys we appreciate you legacy players who have supported the game for the last 2 years and as a show of our appreciation we'd like to give you another chocobo and a discount and the ability to play this one-time content. The small print though is that we're going to make your social history and friendships become totally insignificant by segregating the playerbase and you will need to find new friends with our new resolute plan to get people to stop whining about dying on Ifrit, even though we already fixed animation lock, the number one issue besides stupidity that was causing people to wipe."
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  5. #385
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjain View Post
    "Hey guys we appreciate you legacy players who have supported the game for the last 2 years and as a show of our appreciation we'd like to give you another chocobo and a discount and the ability to play this one-time content. The small print though is that we're going to make your social history and friendships become totally insignificant by segregating the playerbase and you will need to find new friends with our new resolute plan to get people to stop whining about dying on Ifrit, even though we already fixed animation lock, the number one issue besides stupidity that was causing people to wipe."
    They aren't segregating anyone, people can chose to segregate themselves yes. Anyone can pick any regions server. Wish you people would stop complaining about this. Why is it so hard to get talk to your friends and say we are going to play on this server. It will be the same in terms of lag just like how it is now to the people who are out of region. If playing with your friend is that important you can deal with the lag because if they left it as it is then you still have the lag.
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  6. #386
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    You guys are forgetting servers are not region locked. You can pick a server and say were are going to play on server X. Then everyone in your ls can go to that server.
    To this I will add that no matter what region your LS chooses to settle on in ARR, lag-wise you could not be worse off than where you are now.
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  7. #387
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjain View Post
    "Hey guys we appreciate you legacy players who have supported the game for the last 2 years and as a show of our appreciation we'd like to give you another chocobo and a discount and the ability to play this one-time content. The small print though is that we're going to make your social history and friendships become totally insignificant by segregating the playerbase and you will need to find new friends with our new resolute plan to get people to stop whining about dying on Ifrit, even though we already fixed animation lock, the number one issue besides stupidity that was causing people to wipe."
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQkADY3p3OM

    That's not animation lock...

  8. #388
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    Croy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony_BoB View Post
    Community vs. Lag or Community vs. Timing? If people start to choose to split, the damage is done and the floodgates will open up. It's about the timing of when you play. I can play with my LS all day and always have people active because I've made an effort to get to know people from all regions. If the server was guaranteed to be active all day around, I wouldn't give a rat's arse how much lag there would be. I play for the community and for the people. I play because I know no matter what time I get on, I can hook up with a party of friends, and I have a lot of them. Now we are being split. What's to like about that? Perhaps you play for endgame content and being able to do things hardcore and get off plumes perfectly at all times, but I would prefer to hang around with all the fantastic people I have met in the game. To do that, now, I will have to level on multiple servers and I simply don't have that kind of time available to me.
    -.-;;; So what you are saying, no region preferred, no language preferred, every JP player always, always gets better latency (in PvP and PVE) and you would deny people even the choice to go somewhere else? Because that's what it sounds to me. You and your friends are not forced to leave your server, hell if your shell or your friends really are so mixed why do you assume they are suddenly going to leave and go to a different server if everyone is happy where they are at? What is stopping your EU friends from going to Ragnarok which is already in game, what is going stop NA friends from going to an NA preffered server in 2.0 like they have stated multiple times is coming before this recent post. What is it about data centers actually being spread out that makes you so feared compared to what was coming before? Why do you assume you won't be able to do content with friends using content-finder, or others that can speak your language during the off hours. Why is it other people must suffer the limitations of the system just because of some hypothetical fear that your friends are all going to scatter at the touch of a button when it and will always be their choice, its not like the original server merge idea, the servers everyone is on now is not going to vanish, its not going to change, its going to get a little notation that says "Data center Atlantic Region" or something similar. What about that makes you so full of fear?
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  9. #389
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    Rjain Midnight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    They aren't segregating anyone, people can chose to segregate themselves yes. Anyone can pick any regions server. Wish you people would stop complaining about this. Why is it so hard to get talk to your friends and say we are going to play on this server. It will be the same in terms of lag just like how it is now to the people who are out of region. If playing with your friend is that important you can deal with the lag because if they left it as it is then you still have the lag.
    This is where logic comes in.

    Say you've made 15-30 friends that you play with on your server. They are in NA, Europe, and Japan, along with other places that might be closer to regions outside of your own.

    Those people also have friends, most of which probably closer to their own area.

    So I'm just gonna say "ok guys all of you have to come to my North American server"? Even if we were to take the time to see how many of who is closer to what (which would take forever), we'd also have to take into consideration their friends from OTHER servers that want to come play with them (and friends that haven't played the game yet but want to).

    Why they didn't just keep the same sort of server structure is beyond me. It's hard enough getting people to choose one server exactly how it is now, let alone with this new shit.
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    Last edited by Rjain; 09-15-2012 at 04:44 AM.

  10. #390
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjain View Post
    Why they didn't just keep the same sort of server structure is beyond me.
    Because it was very badly built and people made sure to let SE know about it.
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