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  1. #361
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    Belisaire's Avatar
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    Blade Belisaire
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_Hart View Post
    So, we not sure if it is for all world or just regional we already start crying? QQ
    They originally planned cross-server. They said that like, two years ago though. The proposed set up said by Yoshida would make that very difficult.
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  2. #362
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    darkm0d's Avatar
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    Dark Mod
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    It's not life-altering news to me, though I do find it rather displeasing to know. Running into Japanese parties and engaging in hilarious language barrier conversations was some serious fun in XI. Now, not that it's "forced" but I can't see why any NA player would pick a JP server, or vice versa.

    It really will be lacking a good bit of cultural diversion with these region-based servers.
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  3. #363
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    Shura's Avatar
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    Shura Raizen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    It is that simple. I've known of US players playing on EU servers for games, just like some EU players choose to play on US servers. I've tried it, hated the latency, moved back to a US server. I'm not willing to put up with it, but some are.
    I don't know what game your referring to but based on what we know now for THIS game, there is no server transfer option as of yet, there might be one come 2.0 but until something like that is confirmed, people will worry. I personally have no intention of leveling a character and all the jobs all over again just because i don't like the server later on. Also your solution solves nothing, my issue is i don't want to pick between friends. If i go to the EU server based on your solution, then I'm picking my EU friends over my NA or JP, and the same applies no matter where i go.

    Also to whoever said that they payed for the game so they have the right to regional servers if they want..... you payed for an International/Global Game, this is something everyone who bought ffxiv was most likely aware of so saying since you pay for it you should get regional server makes no sense.
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  4. #364
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    Loony_BoB's Avatar
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    Loony Bob
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    Twintania
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    Warrior Lv 80
    I can't stress just how annoyed I am about this. I have friends in Australia and North America who bought the game in the past month or two so they could play it with me after I convinced them for months and months. And now they're being segregated, along with the other people from the states (Hawaii included), Brazil, Canada, Australia that are already in my LS. This is literally tearing up a family we have built up amongst each other and I'm gutted. I also have been told by many others that they were going to buy once 2.0 is out and play with me, and that's not going to happen now, either. I'm just plain gutted. None of them will pick an EU server for the very obvious reason and it's not lag. It's the fact that it will never really be busy during their time's peak hours. They will not be able to put together parties when we're all asleep or working! Arrrrgh. So damned annoyed. Why, SE? Why? My poor friends, my e-family!
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  5. #365
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    Romikemi's Avatar
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    Sir Romikemi
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    Sargatanas
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    Poll? Would this already be a poll if legacy player service fees were expected to exceed new player service fees? We'll likely have to align to whatever the largest audience might be, and it seems SE is betting on the new player.

    Many of us have played XIV and XI with friends from all over the world that speak our language. I see good morning in my chat log at almost any time of day.

    I was hoping for a less isolating solution to ping latency. A much less expensive solution to ping latency is to actually use latency as a calculation rather than remove it by spending tens of millions on new regional data centers and bandwidth contracts.

    Where we (mostly) care about lag is in instances. As the instance starts, the software that operates the event could ping the 8 players and get a response time. The server can then add ping time to the required reaction time to determine whether the player reacted. The server sends a message to the client "ifrit:eruption" and the player moves, causing the client to send a stream of new coordinates to the server. Currently, the server has a fixed time requirement that does not adapt to varying network traffic outside the player's control, it holds a 20ms ping player to the same requirements as a 220ms ping player. With latency factored into the software, and a 220ms ping time, the player in the instance furthest from the server gets a quarter second reaction time in addition to the designed reaction time. The server evaluates their actual response in a manner consistent with those players who use the same network access provider as SE's facilities in Japan and only have 20ms added to their response times.

    So since it's too late to do anything about this, it's good to know that we'll have almost two months to again say goodbye to friends like we did in the merge shuffle.

    This is the first Takana I've seen from the Yoshi team. The experience is about the people and eliminatiing national boundaries in a virtual world. If I fall on my face for the 19th time due to animation lock during eruption, I can laugh about it with someone from a place I've never been and try again. The item or achievement are not the game, the people are.

    What twist in fate has brought us to roads which run so near?
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  6. #366
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    If ARR is a new game, then you should treat it as such.

    I wonder how easy it was for those who made the transition from XI, to be able to keep their friends, every single last one of them.
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  7. #367
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    Rosalie's Avatar
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    Rosalie Braden
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    At this point, I'd discovered that JP players are even worse here than XI for all the JP ONRY bull that I get constantly, even though I actually can speak some Japanese. Thusly, I'm kind of glad I won't have to deal with shouts wasting my time only to reject me. (Not to mention the lag!)

    Edit: BTW please add in "Language Barrier" to auto-translate so they don't sound so damn racist. It's a chore having to explain that to everyone I start yelling at for giving me JP ONLY as an excuse.
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    Last edited by Rosalie; 09-15-2012 at 04:09 AM.
    GLD is not GLA! But apparently, it IS GSM!

  8. #368
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shura View Post
    I don't know what game your referring to but based on what we know now for THIS game, there is no server transfer option as of yet, there might be one come 2.0 but until something like that is confirmed, people will worry. I personally have no intention of leveling a character and all the jobs all over again just because i don't like the server later on. Also your solution solves nothing, my issue is i don't want to pick between friends. If i go to the EU server based on your solution, then I'm picking my EU friends over my NA or JP, and the same applies no matter where i go.

    Also to whoever said that they payed for the game so they have the right to regional servers if they want..... you payed for an International/Global Game, this is something everyone who bought ffxiv was most likely aware of so saying since you pay for it you should get regional server makes no sense.
    I also payed for a MMO game that should give me the best possbile MMO experience, and I can tell you that 1.0 did absolutely not deliver that. The servers we have now are not going away, you can stay on your server if you want but no player should have to suffer the lag they get because the server they're on is on the other side of the planet just because you want everyone on the same server.
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  9. #369
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    Starlord's Avatar
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    Well, in the end everyone will get used to it, friends will keep in touch, servers will but lag-free(ish). Make new friends to be in part of a person's (e-family). As long as the game itself is good, everything else just falls into place.
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  10. #370
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    Babydoll's Avatar
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    Cesil Rapture
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    I don't really care about this..I mean, its nice we will have NO lag...really really nice. Lag is very frustrating to me ><

    What I do care about is...SE will you post the server list BEFORE 1.xx goes down please? No offense but I do not want to have to give contact info to tons many people outside the game. As long as they do that, its all gewd. I mean they can find me on my DA yeah sure, but that is kind of a pain...
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