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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    If my company main language is Eskimo and I have to relate with Polish and Portuguese people I speak English.
    If I'm going on a journey in a country where I can't speak the native language I speak English.
    Even in game if we are French, Dutch, Spanish and Italian in party, not even one native English, we still talk in English.

    If a company has a worldwide project the communication has to be in English first. Period.
    Incorrect!

    Blizzard deals with multiple regions but guess what gets updated first and quickest? The NA/EU (English) side of things, everything else has a delay (and by your logic, this delay shouldn't exist), especially China (SC II news is mostly 3rd party news.)...so it's not that uncommon because you're used to it and it just seems "unfair" because it's not your language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    So anyone that doesn't speak proper english shouldn't dare developing games for an international market?
    Just lol.

    Sorry mate. Not all games revolve around the western fanbase.
    Thank goodness some japanese developers still bring some diversity to this overly stagnant market.
    It's a worldwide project with a worldwide community.
    We aren't playing illegally a game that was released only in Japan. I'm not saying everyone working on it should be speaking English, but the one in charge to relate to the community definitely has to do it!

    And honestly I think that if it wasn't SE and if it was, in exemple, a Spanish company nobody would excuse him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Incorrect!

    Blizzard deals with multiple regions but guess what gets updated first and quickest? The NA/EU (English) side of things, everything else has a delay (and by your logic, this delay shouldn't exist), especially China (SC II news is mostly 3rd party news.)...so it's not that uncommon because you're used to it and it just seems "unfair" because it's not your language.
    Just because Blizzard does it it doesn't mean it's right.
    Also, English isn't my language, but I understand it's the best language to use to relate to people from all of the world :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimm View Post
    Those games are REGION LOCKED this game is not. That is one thing your not understanding.
    Yep, and I'm *very thankful* of the fact that the game isn't region locked as it would be much worse not to be able to play at all because some lack the patience to wait for accessorial communication to be translated.

    I uderstand it very well. What you don't understand is that information on the forums isn't part of the product. You didn't pay for it, ergo you're not entitled to it. Be thankful that you receive it in due time.

    The *product* is perfectly delivered in all languages at the same time (and with a top-notch localization I'd add). That's all that matters for an "international project".

    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    It's a worldwide project with a worldwide community.
    We aren't playing illegally a game that was released only in Japan. I'm not saying everyone working on it should be speaking English, but the one in charge to relate to the community definitely has to do it!
    Not really. There's no rule in place about that. The one in charge must be *competent*.

    And honestly I think that if it wasn't SE and if it was, in exemple, a Spanish company nobody would excuse him.
    There's a LOT of difference between a spanish company in which people's first language is spanish, that uses the exact same method of writing as english, and Japanese, that not only is a different language, but also uses a different writing method.
    The gaming industry is full of companies from russia, and guess what? their communication arrives faster in russian. Mind you, there also are plenty german, polish and such companies, and in MANY cases their communication comes first in their native language, and then is simply translated in due course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    So anyone that doesn't speak proper english shouldn't dare developing games for an international market?
    Just lol.

    Sorry mate. Not all games revolve around the western fanbase.
    Thank goodness some japanese developers still bring some diversity to this overly stagnant market.
    This game is down to 20-30k players which fanbase does it revolve around?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Yep, and I'm *very thankful* of the fact that the game isn't region locked.

    I uderstand it very well. What you don't understand is that information on the forums isn't part of the product. You didn't pay for it, ergo you're not entitled to it. Be thankful that you receive it in due time.

    The *product* is perfectly delivered in all languages at the same time (and with a top-notch localization I'd add). That's all that matters for an *international project*.
    SO TRUE!

    Incorrect!

    Blizzard deals with multiple regions but guess what gets updated first and quickest? The NA/EU (English) side of things, everything else has a delay (and by your logic, this delay shouldn't exist), especially China (SC II news is mostly 3rd party news.)...so it's not that uncommon because you're used to it and it just seems "unfair" because it's not your language.
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    Well, this has digressed. Anyone with a translation please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by origamikitsune View Post
    Well, this has digressed. Anyone with a translation please?
    There hasn't been one yet, but for the gist of it:

    -Materia/slot like system is in the works
    -Crafting is getting an overhaul for things like simplified materials for synths and some other things (Something about R20)
    -News on Companies is coming next week.
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    To be fair XI and XIV have a large spanish speaking fanbase in latin america and the U.S. (I'm not hispanic but I've met many people who play this game and might have an easier time communicating on a forum setting in spanish) but there is no Spanish forums on the official XI forums (a joke at this point) and the official XIV forums. Some people get under represented, the people who gripe about this hardest must not have something bigger to worry about. Obviously Yoshi-P and staff have been working irregular hours due to the blackouts and such, just because Americans have forgotten about the earthquake doesn't mean it isn't still affecting the lives of the Japanese, especially since there was another earthquake/aftershock (depends on source) just recently. In my opinion everyone who only knows one language is not diverse, and there should be a move to learn other languages.

    I just read a recent article stating Japan is having troubles with English teachers in japan (people who are japanese and speak english, not those from England), there are moves to teach kids english in 5th and 6th grade stating , "they want it to be a passion not a study", so wait until FFXXI or w/e, those wizkidz will be replying in English first because they'll be anglophiles like we're japanophiles now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Incorrect!

    Blizzard deals with multiple regions but guess what gets updated first and quickest? The NA/EU (English) side of things, everything else has a delay (and by your logic, this delay shouldn't exist), especially China (SC II news is mostly 3rd party news.)...so it's not that uncommon because you're used to it and it just seems "unfair" because it's not your language.
    +1, geez why cant people just be happy for things.. when devs doesnt post, WHINE WHINE.. when they do post, YOU STILL FIND A WAY TO WHINE WHINE.. really?

    up until yesterday i was all pissy because there was not a single news, then i saw Yoshida posted and i get all excited because i know i get to read something soon enough, i just have to wait but it is certainly coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyMontana View Post
    This game is down to 20-30k players which fanbase does it revolve around?
    And of course you have solid and confirmed sources to say that, right?
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