PLD Gear?

[Sounsyy]

Apparently maturity is something PLDs in this thread are really lacking. Maybe you all should stack that on your body piece instead. Stufoo and Molly, you're behaving worse than Ace and Grey. Please stop. You've seriously filled up 3-4 pages arguing over 20vit vs. 20def. Really? I could live the rest of my life happily if I never saw the phrase "stop posting" again.

Answer the OP's question, defend your opinion (to a point where it isn't ridiculous and insults are not exchanged), and then move on. The OP's question has been answered ten times over, please let this thread die. At 7 pages in, your posts are neither appropriate nor constructive. Congratulations, your bickering has produced more confused tanks than good ones.

[Stufoo]

Remember to be nice on the internet, everyone. God will reward you abundantly for it after the end.

e: Stop posting.

[Chadwick]

Remember to be nice on the internet, everyone. God will reward you abundantly for it after the end.

e: Stop posting.

And what is wrong with telling a dumb girl that she's dumb? I'm sure it takes some effort on her part to maintain that dumbness, and I for one do not appreciate it. The world is a worse place because she is in it.

[Molly_Millions]

You've seriously filled up 3-4 pages arguing over 20vit vs. 20def. Really?

While the tone of the discussion leaves a lot to be desired, what's being discussed holds value. If I'm going to invest boatloads of gil and time to get a nice triple melded (or more) chest piece, I want to ensure I'm spending my gil in the most efficient way possible.

I can post my theory of what I think is best, and if I'm wrong somebody that has a better handle on the math involved and the testing methods used can correct it and tell me why. The problem is the trolls that try to derail the otherwise valuable conversation by tossing epithets and otherwise fouling up the thread with negativity.


That being said, I have a few questions for you all, since you've changed my mind on DEF. Is there a cap to VIT in terms of it's effect on DEF, m.DEF, and enhancing magic potency? If not, would you just stack VIT only on a triple melded cobalt cuirass for PLD? Or would you stack VIT to a certain point, then add something else? If there is a cap, what would an ideal triple melded cobalt cuirass have on it, if I were to use a tier II, a tier III and a tier IV materia for my meld?

[Stufoo]

I can post my theory of what I think is best. The problem is the trolls that try to derail the otherwise valuable conversation by tossing epithets and otherwise fouling up the thread with negativity.

Don't put VIT on a chest piece for PLD, DEF is vastly more beneficial.

Yeah, probably shouldn't go and attack my constructive posts when the entirety of your post consists of things you don't know about then. You didn't say "In my theories I think DEF is more beneficial than VIT, here's why". You said "DEF is vastly more beneficial, don't put VIT on a chest piece for PLD". That's wrong. You can't complain about anything because you deserve it.

That being said, I have a few questions for you all, since you've changed my mind on DEF. Is there a cap to VIT in terms of it's effect on DEF, m.DEF, and enhancing magic potency?

No cap, if there is, it is unreachable. There is a damage floor though, but this is not the same thing as a VIT or DEF cap as it is relative. There is a cap on enhancing magic potency's benefit to each spell, but those are too high to worry about as well, and admittedly the very worst reason to use vitality in the first place. Block Power is the far more beneficial gain from VIT. There's a cap on block power mitigation too, 75%, but that's unattainable on bosses too.

Basically get as much VIT as possible, but don't go overboard because you'll replace it with heavy darklight's more varied benefits or a differently focused body piece anyway.

[Molly_Millions]

Yeah, probably shouldn't go and attack my constructive posts...

I attacked you because the first two words from your in this thread were "stop posting" and because you called me stupid.

When you want to hold a conversation with somebody it's best not to attack/belittle them right off the bat.

[Molly_Millions]

Basically get as much VIT as possible, but don't go overboard because you'll replace it with heavy darklight's more varied benefits or a differently focused body piece anyway.

IMO you can't recommend DL or HDL gear, because it can't be bought and the drop rate is atrocious. Not everyone has the time to dedicate to farming DL or HDL. For most of us that gear is something we'll get if we're lucky, it's not an inevitability. It might be, if we all had 18 hours a day to dedicate to farming it, but that's not the case. Until something changes with the drop rate, any discussion about gear, is a conversation about how to gear your char sans DL and HDL.

[GreyJorildyn]

IMO you can't recommend DL or HDL gear, because it can't be bought and the drop rate is atrocious. Not everyone has the time to dedicate to farming DL or HDL. For most of us that gear is something we'll get if we're lucky, it's not an inevitability. It might be, if we all had 18 hours a day to dedicate to farming it, but that's not the case. Until something changes with the drop rate, any discussion about gear, is a conversation about how to gear your char sans DL and HDL.

Incorrect. When you have discussions about gear, you put them in order of best to worse in terms of situations. You cannot simply decide to discount gear because YOU cannot personally attain it. With your logic, you would have to also leave out gear people cannot afford because of materia prices or whatever. That is just totally ridiculous.

[Molly_Millions]

Incorrect. When you have discussions about gear, you put them in order of best to worse in terms of situations. You cannot simply decide to discount gear because YOU cannot personally attain it. With your logic, you would have to also leave out gear people cannot afford because of materia prices or whatever. That is just totally ridiculous.

It's not that I can't obtain it, its that you either have to be really lucky or do nothing but AV/CC for weeks or months on end to be guaranteed to get it. My point is, we all know it's the best armor. That being the case, this thread should have ended at the second post and that post should have said got get dark light gear, because that's all there is. Being that the driop rate is so horrendous we need to know what's best, without darklight gear.

[Chadwick]

this thread should have ended at the second post

tru dat