PLD Gear?

[Brannigan]

Why would you set yourself up for failer?

Soo you say if I complete these pre reqs in your mind to make any adivice I have , lagit, then you will be forced to accept them as such? There is nothing wrong with having standards, but if your going to rage soo hard against somones ideals, you should probably set the standard in wich you can accept said ideals, a bit higher.
Realy? Speed runs and Darnus?

No, this is not what I said. You have not cleared the dungeons at all. The hardest thing you've beaten is Mog and I'd bet that you did it on BLM or something. The reason I harp on your lack of experience is because you are CLEARLY playing a different game. This game is about speed and efficiency. Speed runs, boss timers (which can actually be an issue on Darnus), and relic leves all require your damage dealers to push hard. As a tank it's your job to keep the monster facing one direction so that they can do that. While survival is also a priority, you haven't even fought anything that threatens a normally-geared paladin.

I'm not telling you to get a certain gear set and stick to it. I'm not telling you that people without darklight gear are trash. I'm telling you to gear to the situation. Right now there is no situation in this game that calls for 370 vitality.

If you actually set out to complete goals beyond mog then you will see why gearing like you do is inefficient.

[Neversleeps]

What materia can you put on a chest piece that will contribute to damage or enmity for a PLD?

Afaik, there is none, hence my focus on damage mitigation.

For your chest piece, it's not the materia that is relevant to DD Tanking but the gear itself. If you're lucky, the Darklight Cuirass is an excellent piece to use as it offers Str : +15, Vit : +15, Attack Power : +20, Crit Attack Power : +50 and the same defense as a Cobalt Cuirass +1.

If you are unable to get the Darklight Cuirass (really, it's just a luck thing so this isn't a comment on lack of skill or any other such bs), your best bets are to either go with a Darksteel/Cobalt Haubergeon. They offer STR, Accuracy, and Att. All useful stats when trying to DD, and moderately good defense as well. As you pointed out, there is really no good DD materia associated with bodies. As a result, the best for all around usage would probably be HP (universally the best because it also affects SW damage and having too much HP never hurt). Vit or Defense aren't bad options either, but it really depends on what you're tanking.

For the body, it's mainly just about getting away from the habit of using the highest defense, best 'tanking stats' piece and being willing to sacrifice some HP, some Def, and some Vit to go with a non-traditional body piece in the Haubergeon.

[Aceofspades]

Agree or disagree with me, either way I realy dont care, but soo long as people ask for advice I will give it to the best of my ability. To say that I shouldnt because I havent completed all the content is simple elitest banter.

[Judge_Xero]

So Basically: Gear Design (Doesn't have to be DL, just using SE's design templates)

Heavy Darklight: Tanking Multiple Trash Mobs. (Block Rate > Block)
Defense (Highest gains at Dlvl or a bit above)
VIT (Def, Mdef, Block, HP)
HP
Enmity (Largest gains to AOE Hate tools, Rampart, Flash, Wardrum)
Dex (Block Rate, useful at Dlvl)

Darklight (Single High Level Boss regardless of it's defense as your "Damage to Enmity" will scale close to your party members) (Block > Block Rate)
STR (Largest gains - Damage to Enmity)
VIT (Block)
ATK (Offers the best Enmity over time AA + WS, but a good MND Helm owns though)
Accuracy

[Kaeko]

The state of the prime healing class is incredibly relevant to how a PLD or any tank should manage his gear sets. WHM is horribly overpowered. A major reason damage mitigation is not really a huge deal on PLD is because a single WHM carries so much healing efficiency and burst healing capability. Because a single WHM can max you out constantly with minimal effort (when played at a reasonable, standard level of skill), it isn't a huge deal if you're taking 800 vs. 1000 damage shots (just need to avoid to getting 1-2 shot). For this reason, you're better off focusing on damage / enmity at this stage of the game given the current endgame content.

[Molly_Millions]

The state of the prime healing class is incredibly relevant to how a PLD or any tank should manage his gear sets. WHM is horribly overpowered. A major reason damage mitigation is not really a huge deal on PLD is because a single WHM carries so much healing efficiency and burst healing capability. Because a single WHM can max you out constantly with minimal effort (when played at a reasonable, standard level of skill), it isn't a huge deal if you're taking 800 vs. 1000 damage shots (just need to avoid to getting 1-2 shot). For this reason, you're better off focusing on damage / enmity at this stage of the game given the current endgame content.

What materia can you put on a chest piece that will contribute to damage or enmity for a PLD? Afaik, there is none, hence my focus on damage mitigation.

Asside from heavy darklight armor there really isn't anything that fits that criteria, and we all know the hdl gear is something to strive for as a tank. Given this common understanding, any conversation about how to gear PLD/WAR for tanking is really a discussion of how to gear PLD/WAR sans hdl gear. Concerning the chest slot, what we're left with is a discussion of what is best for PLD; VIT, DEF, HP, evasion or Crit attack power.

[GreyJorildyn]

Indeed. No class stands alone, especially not a tank. Ignoring that synergy is complete folly.

[SwordCoheir]

What materia can you put on a chest piece that will contribute to damage or enmity for a PLD? Afaik, there is none, hence my focus on damage mitigation.

There isn't any DD materia out ther that would contribute to DPS save for Crit. Pot., though being your always on the mob you may have more opportunities to Crit than others, so it's a toss up.

IMO the best DD body pieces you could obtain are

-Darklight Cuirass (Str : +15, Vit : +15, Attack Power : +20, Crit Attack Power : +50, Evasion : -10, Healing Magic Potency : -30)

-Gridanian Officers Overcoat (Str : +10, Dex : +10, Int : +10, Pty : +10, Sanction: Crit Attack Power +120)

-Lominsan Officers Overcoat (Str : +10, Dex : +10, Vit : +10, Mnd : +10, Sanction: Defense +70) <--- Personal choice.

-Darksteel Haubergeon (Attack Power : +7, Accuracy : +8, Str : +7, Crit Attack Power : +10) Preferably with Crit. Atk. Melds or Def your choice.

-Gallant Surcoat (Recovers MP during Cover , MP : +40, Mnd : +12, Healing Magic Potency : +3, Enmity : +3) Mostly because it has a decent bit of MND but there ARE much better choices.

-Uldahn Officer's Overcoat (Vit : +10, Int : +10, Mnd : +10, Pty : +10, Sanction: Magic Accuracy +15) Pretty Meh, but posted it just incase someone was curious

[Molly_Millions]

Tbh, Judge, I don't think we can count blocks when aegis boon is in effect because you end up gaining HP, not losing it. We can only count blocks done without it.

[Stufoo]

Noone said anything ever about aegis boon. What does this have to do with it? Both stats have access to it and it's always 703. If you use Aegis Boon while Divine Veil is up you're not being efficient. If you need HP you should cure during that time because you can't be interrupted. Quit bringing up random shit that has nothing to do with the testing because you're wrong.