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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xikeroth View Post
    I do however hope this new assistant director knows what the MMO community wants rather then turn into another Tanaka. That is the last thing we need.
    Since he is an assistant director and not getting Yoshida's job he doesn't exactly have the authority to turn the project into a pile of crap like the initial release.

    For the record, I like Tanaka. I think there were problems with XIV beyond just Tanaka's direction, and some of it was poor executive decision. It was not ready in the slightest to be released. You can't say that Tanaka is good at offline games and bad at MMOs, a game is a game. If an MMO is lacking it's lacking primarily in social structure and that's not what XIV's original problem was.

    How about we stop talking shit about Tanaka who has done a lot of work at Square throughout the entire series and stop talking shit about this new director we haven't even met yet and has yet to do anything for the game? Show some respect guys. Tough request to make here I know, but seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjain View Post
    For the record, I like Tanaka. I think there were problems with XIV beyond just Tanaka's direction, and some of it was poor executive decision. It was not ready in the slightest to be released. You can't say that Tanaka is good at offline games and bad at MMOs, a game is a game. If an MMO is lacking it's lacking primarily in social structure and that's not what XIV's original problem was.
    Exactly.

    Tanaka shouldn't have all the blame here, he wanted more time and it wasn't given to him, one man shouldn't be blamed for the faults of many others besides himself.
    Tanaka had really good ideas for this game, REALLY GOOD (That may never be implemented)
    You all didn't forget about this did you?
    Cake making, ship battles, etc.
    He had no experience in mmos either when FFXI came along, (This was WAAAY before WOW came and kicked FFXI off of it's pedestal) yet it happens to be one of the most profitable in the numbered series of the FF franchise.

    You're all so pent up on your Tanaka/ new ASSISTANT director hate, you've all pretty much blinded yourselves to what these people have (And have yet to) provide that got us here now.

    Look at what happened to TERA, The Secret World and SWTOR, those games suffer from the same thing that plagued FFXIV in the beginning, yet have the nerve to harp on Tanaka and whatnot as if he's the first MMO dev to make these mistakes.

    Look at Funcom and Age of Conan, TSW is having problems reminiscent of AOC and TSW was supposedly supposed to be FUNCOM's redemption mmo, but no, they didn't learn from their first mmo either.

    EME and TERA, EME is supposedly made up of NCSoft geniuses (Brian Knoxx) and he hasn't learned from AION and his "Westernization is what everyone wants!
    theories.

    SWTOR... BIOWARE (Don't even get me STARTED on them)

    It's better to have failed ONCE in something, and have learned from it, than to have failed once and fail again not learning anything from your first failure.
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    Last edited by AsterBarnivere; 09-02-2012 at 09:20 AM.

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    When GWII starts tapering off and eventually go on life support, I wonder if people will blame the community and not the developers >.> I guess only people who know more than just playing games found it weird that Tanaka himself said XIV has no release date but want its in 2010, then suddenly it gets a release date mere months after he stated that -- near the end of a financial year where SE didn't exactly have much iirc and having a final fantasy mmo would have certainly boosted it.
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    That's pretty amusing the last game he worked on was Criminal Girls lol.
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    welcome new vice producer. the ferocious and audacious, but very

    vocal FFXIV community welcome to criticize you for every new move you make

    i appreciate the changes that weve had whatever has come and whatever has gone

    good luck in your new position and we look forward to seeing what you can do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veltaine View Post
    welcome new vice producer. the ferocious and audacious, but very

    vocal FFXIV community welcome to criticize you for every new move you make

    i appreciate the changes that weve had whatever has come and whatever has gone

    good luck in your new position and we look forward to seeing what you can do

    i feel though for some people he's already DOA
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    OMG, could not be more psyched!! I ADORE Etrian Odyssey (one of my all time favorite games)!! WHOOT-WHOOT!!! Hell yeah! Soooo happy to hear this. ARR is going to kick so much ass!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowen View Post
    Y'know what I hate? When someone goes around saying sh*t like this. This is not the first time you've said it either. You make tons of claims but never support them. GWII is a different game. Let it be it's own game. Let FFXIV be it's own game. They can both be successful without having the other fail.
    My claim supports itself.... Was GWII or MOP in the poll ? What you say no ? Really ? Hmm!

    Also nobody is talking about XIV being like or alike GWII... What are you talking about now ?
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    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjain View Post
    Since he is an assistant director and not getting Yoshida's job he doesn't exactly have the authority to turn the project into a pile of crap like the initial release.

    For the record, I like Tanaka. I think there were problems with XIV beyond just Tanaka's direction, and some of it was poor executive decision. It was not ready in the slightest to be released. You can't say that Tanaka is good at offline games and bad at MMOs, a game is a game. If an MMO is lacking it's lacking primarily in social structure and that's not what XIV's original problem was.

    How about we stop talking shit about Tanaka who has done a lot of work at Square throughout the entire series and stop talking shit about this new director we haven't even met yet and has yet to do anything for the game? Show some respect guys. Tough request to make here I know, but seriously.
    Blasphemy! The director of the amazing Etrian Odyssey could never turn a game to crap! *w* Etrian Odyssey is a beautiful, compelling, and heart-pumpingly challenging game with some really kickass class builds. I hope very very much to see some essence of Etrian Odyssey leak into ARR.
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