Arcanist and Summoner artwork

[Renala]

Arcanist is a class not a job

Summoner is the job

They never said it was an advanced class there will be no advanced classes the jobs are the "advanced" areas of the game

why unlock something that isn't "advanced" and will be brought out with the relaunch of the remade game

I'm saying so that people that just join, they don't jump into ARN/the other new jobs as they first join. This has more reason then just "Oh I don't want to see 50000298476 of one job!" - yes I don't want that, but another reason is so people who have been playing it can A) Unlock it(And therefor be able to tell people how to as they get X level to unlock it) and B) Level the job some to be able to help guide people threw it.

I personally don't see an issue in having it be like unlocked, even if its just a simple quest, that does require you to be level 20 or something to do. I mean, it doesn't make sense. "Equip book. YOU NOW KNOW HOW TO SUMMON CARBUNCLE. CONGRATULATIONS". Magic and sort at least sort of made sense. Summoning a lesser primal doesn't. I'd LOVE to see them add a level 1 necklace named "Carbuncle ruby necklace" that you need to go SB or something simple.

[Bowen]

I'm saying so that people that just join, they don't jump into ARN/the other new jobs as they first join. This has more reason then just "Oh I don't want to see 50000298476 of one job!" - yes I don't want that, but another reason is so people who have been playing it can A) Unlock it(And therefor be able to tell people how to as they get X level to unlock it) and B) Level the job some to be able to help guide people threw it.

I personally don't see an issue in having it be like unlocked, even if its just a simple quest, that does require you to be level 20 or something to do. I mean, it doesn't make sense. "Equip book. YOU NOW KNOW HOW TO SUMMON CARBUNCLE. CONGRATULATIONS". Magic and sort at least sort of made sense. Summoning a lesser primal doesn't. I'd LOVE to see them add a level 1 necklace named "Carbuncle ruby necklace" that you need to go SB or something simple.

Except, you know, the book probably contains spells and incantations for summoning. I know what you're saying, but the whole idea behind the armoury system is to allow us to switch classes at a whim.

[Rannie]

I'm saying so that people that just join, they don't jump into ARN/the other new jobs as they first join. This has more reason then just "Oh I don't want to see 50000298476 of one job!" - yes I don't want that, but another reason is so people who have been playing it can A) Unlock it(And therefor be able to tell people how to as they get X level to unlock it) and B) Level the job some to be able to help guide people threw it.

I personally don't see an issue in having it be like unlocked, even if its just a simple quest, that does require you to be level 20 or something to do. I mean, it doesn't make sense. "Equip book. YOU NOW KNOW HOW TO SUMMON CARBUNCLE. CONGRATULATIONS". Magic and sort at least sort of made sense. Summoning a lesser primal doesn't. I'd LOVE to see them add a level 1 necklace named "Carbuncle ruby necklace" that you need to go SB or something simple.

so basically you're saying that because there were people who didn't like the game and didn't play it when it first came out and jumped onto the bandwagon (which is what Yoshida is wanting) after it's relaunched to be forced to "unlock" a class that isn't an advanced class that was no mention of it being an advanced class. And the reason why you need it to unlock the job summoner. Or even punish us because we've played the game since launch and complained about wanting a pet class or a new mage class since it's out of balance to begin with. All because carby may or may not be the first thing you get when you equip a book? I can see them waiting for a certain level then giving your carby like the do with cure on con but to force you to unlock it no it's never going to happen. they haven't done that for any of the classes they've done that for jobs.

also not all the new players and such are automatically going to jump in and play arcanist. They still have the 7 original classes to level as well it's all personal preference really. I myself haven't gotten all my dow completely leveled. I don't have pug and glad and mrd lvled to 50 myself. So there won't be a gagillion people playing as arcanist.

[Renala]

so basically you're saying that because there were people who didn't like the game and didn't play it when it first came out and jumped onto the bandwagon (which is what Yoshida is wanting) after it's relaunched to be forced to "unlock" a class that isn't an advanced class that was no mention of it being an advanced class. And the reason why you need it to unlock the job summoner. Or even punish us because we've played the game since launch and complained about wanting a pet class or a new mage class since it's out of balance to begin with. All because carby may or may not be the first thing you get when you equip a book? I can see them waiting for a certain level then giving your carby like the do with cure on con but to force you to unlock it no it's never going to happen. they haven't done that for any of the classes they've done that for jobs

Your taking what I'm saying out of context. Let me break this down...


CLASS > JOB.

Arcanist being a CLASS, but not like the normal SEVEN CLASSES. It is an ADVANCED CLASS and therefor is unlocked. Same with musketeer or whatever the other new class will be.

So I am saying you have your normal 7 classes to pick from when you create a character. To get the new two that will be added in ARR, you need to do a quest of some level - 10, 15, 20, 30, whatever it maybe, and then its unlocked and your free to level. Heck, even if the quest is level 10, then it gives you the weathered book. HELL. Even a level ONE quest to give you the book rather then it being "Oh go buy this for 1315 gil!" would be better.

TL;DR - Just add it so you need to do a freaking quest to get the first weapon to level it. After that I could give a flying... *AHEM* anyway, I don't care about it being normal then. That way, further weapons are crafted(And are "Requires level #/##" to use, but you needed to do the first quest to get the level 1 weapon.)

[Rannie]

Your taking what I'm saying out of context. Let me break this down...


CLASS > JOB.

Arcanist being a CLASS, but not like the normal SEVEN CLASSES. It is an ADVANCED CLASS and therefor is unlocked. Same with musketeer or whatever the other new class will be.

So I am saying you have your normal 7 classes to pick from when you create a character. To get the new two that will be added in ARR, you need to do a quest of some level - 10, 15, 20, 30, whatever it maybe, and then its unlocked and your free to level. Heck, even if the quest is level 10, then it gives you the weathered book. HELL. Even a level ONE quest to give you the book rather then it being "Oh go buy this for 1315 gil!" would be better.

TL;DR - Just add it so you need to do a freaking quest to get the first weapon to level it. After that I could give a flying... *AHEM* anyway, I don't care about it being normal then. That way, further weapons are crafted(And are "Requires level #/##" to use, but you needed to do the first quest to get the level 1 weapon.)

No I know what you're saying. No need to break it down ^_^. You're not understanding me. There is no advance classes that is what the jobs are. Where does Yoshida say that arcanist is an "advanced" Class? Why even bother adding in more crap like that when that's what the lvl 30 job quests are for? That's what I'm saying

[Renala]

No I know what you're saying. No need to break it down ^_^. You're not understanding me. There is no advance classes that is what the jobs are. Where does Yoshida say that arcanist is an "advanced" Class? Why even bother adding in more crap like that when that's what the lvl 30 job quests are for? That's what I'm saying

He doesn't say it anywhere as far as I know. I am just saying. That's what I want, and that's how I'd view the two new classes as. The old seven are the base ones, any further are "unlocked" per say by a simple quest.