Can someone give me a DRG skill rotation?

[Raubahn]

I said it earlier in this thread and I'll say it again.
Why use B4B on a multi-hit WS where it only affects the first hit? Following the rotation you put up, why wouldn't you save it for that RoT at the very, very least? Just seems very useless to use it on Chaos Thrust.

Unless I'm wrong and they changed it so buffs only affect the first hit of multi-hit WS and then suddenly decided to change it back, I don't understand why you'd waste it here?





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ok so i made a test on wether B4B affected the first hit or not on a level 54 Pig here's the results knowing that i had my hp at 70% ~ just to clear out why to use b4b on a multi hit ws like that instead of ring of talons.



so why did the first hit was the same as every other hit for the exception of that critical hit? and some were even higher?
B4B affects all hits in Chaos Thrust as u can see you can go and test it yourself if you dont believe me.

and yes i know chaos thrust is accurate atm but i only said use hawks eye on it in situations like garuda or high evasion bosses.

[AmyNeudaiz]

ok so i made a test on wether B4B affected the first hit or not on a level 54 Pig here's the results knowing that i had my hp at 70% ~ just to clear out why to use b4b on a multi hit ws like that instead of ring of talons.

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so why did the first hit was the same as every other hit for the exception of that critical hit? and some were even higher?
B4B affects all hits in Chaos Thrust as u can see you can go and test it yourself if you dont believe me.

and yes i know chaos thrust is accurate atm but i only said use hawks eye on it in situations like garuda or high evasion bosses.

You do realize that a single test of this has basically 0 weight right?
Plus the effect of Blood for Blood wouldn't be all that noticable on such a low damage hit. Example: the first hit, 166, could of really been a buffed 150~ hit. Even if it ended up being higher near 160 unbuffed like the rest it still would be so negligable that you would barely notice. For 160~ damage hits I'd guess blood for blood only increases the damage of a single hit by maybe 10-15 damage more which is for sure within the max and min damage for hits at that damage range. I'm by no means sticking to this conclusion for no reason, this info that it only effects the first hit was from the devs if I recall correctly.

I hope I'm getting my point across clearly, I'm pretty tired atm lol.

[Narctiss]

so why did the first hit was the same as every other hit for the exception of that critical hit? and some were even higher?
B4B affects all hits in Chaos Thrust as u can see you can go and test it yourself if you dont believe me.

Sorry man, just stop being dumb and trying to back up something you are wrong about with a null and void test. Buffs only affect the first hit of multi-hit WS.
Let me just throw this out there to back up what I've now said three times and yet you fail to grasp:

[dev1206] Abilities that affect your next offensive ability will now benefit only the first stage of multistage weaponskills.

From patch 1.20 notes: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...tch-1.20-Notes

Thank you, and goodnight.
(No offense meant, Raub. I just do not like the spread of misinformation based on 'eyeballing' something. Rethink your DRG rotation and check up on all facts before claiming something to be true).

[Raubahn]

Sorry man, just stop being dumb and trying to back up something you are wrong about with a null and void test. Buffs only affect the first hit of multi-hit WS.
Let me just throw this out there to back up what I've now said three times and yet you fail to grasp:



From patch 1.20 notes: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...tch-1.20-Notes

Thank you, and goodnight.
(No offense meant, Raub. I just do not like the spread of misinformation based on 'eyeballing' something. Rethink your DRG rotation and check up on all facts before claiming something to be true).

Yes apparently i missed that sentence from the patch notes in 1.20 sorry for the misinformation and non taken narc.

[Hung]

while waiting, prepare to start:
Power Surge, Invigorate, Quelling Strike (QS)

1. Jump
2. Javelin Throw
3. Vorpal Thrust (behind) > Impulse Drive (side) > Keen Flurry > Chaos Thrust
4. Javelin Throw
5. True Thrust (front) > Leg Sweep > B4B, blindside, QS (if up again) > Doomspike (behind)
6. Javelin Throw
7. Vorpal Thrust (behind) > Impulse Drive (side) > Chaos Thrust
8. Javelin Throw
9. True Thrust (front) > Heavy Thrust
10. Vorpal Thrust (behind) > Impulse Drive (side) > Rings of Talon

... rinse repeat ... as abilities go back up.
- use Keen with Chaos
- use buffs with Doom
- throw Javelin after big WS animation/Jump (unless in fight that punish animation lock)
- use Full Thrust, Feint > Disembowel if miss anything
- use Chameleon, Elusive Jump as needed
- use Jump, Invigorate when up

[Arland]

while waiting, prepare to start:
Power Surge, Invigorate, Quelling Strike (QS)

1. Jump
2. Javelin Throw
3. Vorpal Thrust (behind) > Impulse Drive (side) > Keen Flurry > Chaos Thrust
4. Javelin Throw
5. True Thrust (front) > Leg Sweep > B4B, blindside, QS (if up again) > Doomspike (behind)
6. Javelin Throw
7. Vorpal Thrust (behind) > Impulse Drive (side) > Chaos Thrust
8. Javelin Throw
9. True Thrust (front) > Heavy Thrust
10. Vorpal Thrust (behind) > Impulse Drive (side) > Rings of Talon

... rinse repeat ... as abilities go back up.
- use Keen with Chaos
- use buffs with Doom
- throw Javelin after big WS animation/Jump (unless in fight that punish animation lock)
- use Full Thrust, Feint > Disembowel if miss anything
- use Chameleon, Elusive Jump as needed
- use Jump, Invigorate when up

Exactly, if you want to copy any rotation. Then copy this one.
My rotation works as Hung's, that way you don't have large downtimes.

As stated above, don't pop skills like Hawkes Eye for Chaos Thrust, one miss isn't bad and gives you more Damage from the Feint Combo than the single Hit would be worth.

[AmyNeudaiz]

while waiting, prepare to start:
Power Surge, Invigorate, Quelling Strike (QS)

1. Jump
2. Javelin Throw
3. Vorpal Thrust (behind) > Impulse Drive (side) > Keen Flurry > Chaos Thrust
4. Javelin Throw
5. True Thrust (front) > Leg Sweep > B4B, blindside, QS (if up again) > Doomspike (behind)
6. Javelin Throw
7. Vorpal Thrust (behind) > Impulse Drive (side) > Chaos Thrust
8. Javelin Throw
9. True Thrust (front) > Heavy Thrust
10. Vorpal Thrust (behind) > Impulse Drive (side) > Rings of Talon

... rinse repeat ... as abilities go back up.
- use Keen with Chaos
- use buffs with Doom
- throw Javelin after big WS animation/Jump (unless in fight that punish animation lock)
- use Full Thrust, Feint > Disembowel if miss anything
- use Chameleon, Elusive Jump whenever possible after your initial combo
- use Jump, Invigorate when up

Slight change and this is pretty much as good as it gets for single target DPS.

[Eliseus]

Slight change and this is pretty much as good as it gets for single target DPS.

Wrong, if you want to maximize your dps you don't use cham/elusive jump whenever possible because then you are using a cooldown when you could be doing something else like throwing a javelin or auto attack or anything for that matter. Like Hung said, only use it when it is needed.

[AmyNeudaiz]

Wrong, if you want to maximize your dps you don't use cham/elusive jump whenever possible because then you are using a cooldown when you could be doing something else like throwing a javelin or auto attack or anything for that matter. Like Hung said, only use it when it is needed.

Lol, now I know that you only reply to me to disagree with me. Seriously, how much uber 1337 game breaking dps can you do in 5 seconds. Please, tell me. This should be amusing.

[Malix]

Slight change and this is pretty much as good as it gets for single target DPS.

i wouldn't use chameleon unless you really need it and if your tank is just bad to where u need to use it as part of an opening rotation than you arent likely to reach your full dmg potential regardless. i generally have to use only chameleon at best and hardly ever use elusive and i have stat caps with a good spear.