On "Hardcore"

[Tatsuguy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j82YZnN4j9U (SKILL) VS (SPEED RUNS) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJl18zFGWDM


the fundamental differances are simple. One requires complete understanding and knowledge of the current game and the other requires alot of time to dedicate to memorize a dungeon. Some how we confused epic gear builds and endless time to spam content with skill in this game. Back when the skill video was made, we had broken gear, broken stats and broken skills. It was a culmination of knowing what to use, when to use it and how each ability effected the class , that made taking that oger down. In the speed run video, there was great cordination and team work, moderate knowledge of jobs but no real skill was obvious in that video simply because no real skill was needed.

Thats not skill thats having all classes at lvl 50 lol

[Stufoo]

Thats not skill thats having all classes at lvl 50 lol

He can't even beat the dungeons much less get a speed run, just let him talk and ignore him. A casual blind dog can be trained to do speed runs but that danged old miser is just too much for him.

[Aceofspades]

Thats not skill thats having all classes at lvl 50 lol

your right having all classes to 50 is NOT skill, what is skill is knowing how to use what you have, even with imporved gear and better abilities, and the fixing of most stats, can you do what that taru did? I seriously doubt it, not that I doubt your skill , but because the lvl of skill it takes to solo a lvl 80 oger , even now, is great. We have better gear options and stronger weapon skills and abilities, but reguardless, that fight is a hard one.

[Tatsuguy]

your right having all classes to 50 is NOT skill, what is skill is knowing how to use what you have, even with imporved gear and better abilities, and the fixing of most stats, can you do what that taru did? I seriously doubt it, not that I doubt your skill , but because the lvl of skill it takes to solo a lvl 80 oger , even now, is great. We have better gear options and stronger weapon skills and abilities, but reguardless, that fight is a hard one.

No because i didnt have all R50 classes when THM had an over powered OP spell. trust me i could have done that shit if i had all my classes lvld but that was the problem back then the game sucked ass and i didnt want to spend all day every day lvling up lol i started playing way to late to get all 50's when they were unbalanced.

Lol if you think its possible to kill a lvl 80 ogre now i challenge you. Cant use doh/dol cause thats cheating lol

[darkstarpoet1]

No because i didnt have all R50 classes when THM had an over powered OP spell. trust me i could have done that shit if i had all my classes lvld but that was the problem back then the game sucked ass and i didnt want to spend all day every day lvling up lol i started playing way to late to get all 50's when they were unbalanced.

Lol if you think its possible to kill a lvl 80 ogre now i challenge you. Cant use doh/dol cause thats cheating lol

that's a quite large assumption on your part. i know of many thm's that had the same skills and abilities as i had and couldn't complete the fight. don't act like by having that skill that it was an auto win fight. it was still quite difficult and you could very easily wipe if you made one mistake. i can promise you i saw so many people die trying the different fights solo, but no matter what you may think it wasn't as easy as some made it look.

yes, if you played the fight properly you would win, but you had to know your strengths and weaknesses and make sure not to make a mistake.