Bye Bye, Speed Runs. /dance

[morpheus]

Speed runs don't feel rushed once you've done it 100 times. It becomes the new standard and you don't really know how to do it any other way after that.

I agree that they "encourage" class stacking, but that's not a byproduct of speed runs. It's an issue inherent to the class system and combat design.

I for one will miss the speed runs, and not because they lessen fear availibilty (couldn't care less about that), but because I've always enjoyed time trials, and the synergy they require within the group.

Exactly!! All speed runs did was add some form of challenge to content and give people something else to work towards. 90% of the people who whined about speeds just whined cause they weren't good enough to to do them or in an ls that wasn't good enough to do them. Flame away but it's true.

[Onizuka]

Exactly!! All speed runs did was add some form of challenge to content and give people something else to work towards. 90% of the people who whined about speeds just whined cause they weren't good enough to to do them or in an ls that wasn't good enough to do them. Flame away but it's true.

Huh, challenge? Yeah, I may understand that doing a “Time Trial” could pose a challenge for certain adventurers. Sure, do it once, twice, 10 times... but, c'mon, after doing it hundred times, same Jobs and same strategy, don't tell me it's still enjoyable.
This is what the Speed Runs are.

And about the “not being good enough to do them”... Well, personally speaking I would have surely tried... if I could. My Job of Monk is automatically left out of the Speed Runs, it's simply not fast enough.
But I'm sure that even if I could participate in this “content”, being an adventurer who likes to do things with no hurry, and considering it required to be spammed, I wouldn't have liked it one bit.

[By the way, this trend of spamming contents should just go as well. Hamlet Defense is another example of wasted content with a good potential... but OK, that's another matter.]

I'd consider the dungeons challenging if they're actually hard to get through, places where you can go in as your favourite Job. Strong monsters, different routes... I could stay here and list all the improvements they could introduce, but with Yoshida's promises I've faith that this time they won't disappoint.

[morpheus]

Huh, challenge? Yeah, I may understand that doing a “Time Trial” could pose a challenge for certain adventurers. Sure, do it once, twice, 10 times... but, c'mon, after doing it hundred times, same Jobs and same strategy, don't tell me it's still enjoyable.
This is what the Speed Runs are.

And about the “not being good enough to do them”... Well, personally speaking I would have surely tried... if I could. My Job of Monk is automatically left out of the Speed Runs, it's simply not fast enough.
But I'm sure that even if I could participate in this “content”, being an adventurer who likes to do things with no hurry, and considering it required to be spammed, I wouldn't have liked it one bit.

[By the way, this trend of spamming contents should just go as well. Hamlet Defense is another example of wasted content with a good potential... but OK, that's another matter.]

I'd consider the dungeons challenging if they're actually hard to get through, places where you can go in as your favourite Job. Strong monsters, different routes... I could stay here and list all the improvements they could introduce, but with Yoshida's promises I've faith that this time they won't disappoint.

The people on these forums make my head hurt. First, don't talk about how speed runs aren't challenging when you haven't done them. "I'd consider the dungeons challenging if they're actually hard to get through" you haven't even completed av or cc let alone done speed runs on them yet you will sit on here and bitch about them like you know what you are talking about. "My Job of Monk is automatically left out of the Speed Runs, it's simply not fast enough." so speed runs are bad cause you are forced into playing specific jobs(not really true) yet at the same time you only play one job lol?? You should spend less time making qq post about stuff you don't know about and more time actually playing the game.