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  1. #131
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    What I'd like to know is.... who are all these people that are against all these frivolous things you complain about? Cause all I see in your threads are people, in the most polite way they can, telling you to shut up already.

    Also, according to the last poll, only 3% of players post frequently here. These threads mean nothing and will accomplish nothing. Your complaints, though they might make you feel better by putting them out there any chance you get, won't make a dent in any head developer's plan. The reason for this is you never have a thoughtful message. It's just a brain fart. You wouldn't be taken seriously even if it was a good idea or a good point in opposition.
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  2. #132
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    For all the bitching and moaning the OP and other people on the forums do, they are still here. After a year of seeing where this game is headed, they haven't left.

    Ask yourself this: If you will sit here and suffer through all of these changes that the game is now seeing and will see in the future, if you will still pay to play the game when so much of it bothers you... Why should SE change their minds for you? They are adding content that will have the greatest appeal to a wider audience, and even though you dislike the changes, you won't leave.

    Consumers vote with their money, in case you weren't aware - and you who complain yet pay to play month after month are the perfect examples of why SE is making the right decision. You will eat anything they toss at you, no matter how disgusting it tastes, but the fact of the matter is that you are a minority and most people enjoy the taste. As disturbing as this might sound, SE will make more money just ignoring you and appealing to a wider audience.

    They haven't sold their souls, it is still a Final Fantasy, just adapted to fit the (modern) MMO mold.
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  3. #133
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    Rokien, I think the reasoning as to why everyone dislikes you is that you won't even take another person's opinion.

    These threads just seem to be you asking a pretty generalized question based on what you believe is absolute fact (e.g. the translation of a fragment in an interview is not an absolute fact), and you slam or argue the point with anyone whom tries to tell you different.

    On Topic:
    Face it; the game is changing. If you do not like where it is heading, leave it. You might want FFXIV to succeed but suffice it to say; you are not SE nor are you a part of it. You're a consumer using a product. If your ISP is not up to your standard I would assume or hope that you would seek an alternative provider.

    SE is not going to change what they have planned now, so why bother posting such a thread?
    Accept it, or move on, is what I'm trying to say.
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    Last edited by heit; 08-20-2012 at 08:14 AM. Reason: hadn't had my coffee this morning

  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by heit View Post
    Rokien, I think the reasoning as to why everyone dislikes you is that you won't even take another person's opinion.

    SE is not going to change what they have planned now, so why bother posting such a thread?
    Accept it, or move on, is what I'm trying to say.
    I do, infact I'm open to idea that aren't "if you don't like it don't use it" "Deal with it"

    Also, as I stated in this thread, i'd be stupid to think that they would change it now, all I'm trying to ask right now is it not to be the main good source of leveling, I want others just to be as good. quest leveling = mob grinding.

    The other people on here are not up for that, nor say, OK that's cool, as long as I get my quest grinds you can have your mob grinding. I infact didn't even say take out quests(ok probably did, but meh), just want more options.
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  5. #135
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    I don't care if quests are a good way to get exp. I DO care if they're the only way to get reasonable exp. The other MMOs (WoW, Tera, Rift, SWTOR, etc) that use quests as the primary means of leveling, all have very bland quests and are criticized for it incessantly because there is no real way to make tons of tons of quests interesting. It is not a limitless area of innovations. There are only so many types of quests a Dev can create. Personally, after completing so many quests in the many other MMOs on the market, I can honestly say I don't care for them.

    I LIKE being able to find some folks and setup camp somewhere. Maybe socialise a bit while we farm the mobs and make some new friends. If I'm soloing, I'll throw on my Pandora and just mindlessly grind a bit. This can be made even more interesting by tweaking different mob AI and what not. Point is, one option should not be better than the other if SE really wants to appeal to a wider playerbase.

    And to those saying you have to MIX the options to get the best exp, I call BS. The only possible way this will be true, is if each way of getting exp has diminishing returns, and then we're just right back to another form of a crappy fatigue system. There will always be a precise, best way to progress in a game. The min/maxers already know this to be true.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuneSevalle View Post
    I don't care if quests are a good way to get exp. I DO care if they're the only way to get reasonable exp. The other MMOs (WoW, Tera, Rift, SWTOR, etc) that use quests as the primary means of leveling, all have very bland quests and are criticized for it incessantly because there is no real way to make tons of tons of quests interesting. It is not a limitless area of innovations. There are only so many types of quests a Dev can create. Personally, after completing so many quests in the many other MMOs on the market, I can honestly say I don't care for them.

    I LIKE being able to find some folks and setup camp somewhere. Maybe socialise a bit while we farm the mobs and make some new friends. If I'm soloing, I'll throw on my Pandora and just mindlessly grind a bit. This can be made even more interesting by tweaking different mob AI and what not. Point is, one option should not be better than the other if SE really wants to appeal to a wider playerbase.

    And to those saying you have to MIX the options to get the best exp, I call BS. The only possible way this will be true, is if each way of getting exp has diminishing returns, and then we're just right back to another form of a crappy fatigue system. There will always be a precise, best way to progress in a game. The min/maxers already know this to be true.
    That's all I'm asking for.
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  8. #137
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    ok Rokien, why in gods name did you even bother making 2 threads about the same shit twice?

    Dont you have anything else to do besides trolling forums?

    Boring thread.

    close it, throw Rokien back into the box & kick it down the well.

    Heres a newsflash:
    Life on Rails confirmed!... you live...you die, get over it.
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    Last edited by Laughlyn; 08-20-2012 at 10:27 AM.

    I used to be Noomy...then i took shiva's Hail Storm to my knee...

  9. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Also, as I stated in this thread, i'd be stupid to think that they would change it now, all I'm trying to ask right now is it not to be the main good source of leveling, I want others just to be as good. quest leveling = mob grinding.
    That to me makes it sound like you want something changed.

    Wait for it to come out. That's what the rest of us are doing.

    Hell, we're not even in 2.0 BETA testing phase yet; they may adjust exp values yet.

    Isn't the leve system a similar setup in reality? Based on similar principles?
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  10. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughlyn View Post
    ok Rokien, why in gods name did you even bother making 2 threads about the same shit twice?

    Dont you have anything else to do besides trolling forums?

    Boring thread.

    close it & throw Rokien back into the box & kick it down the well.
    he likes to see his topics/threads read, but most importantly its all for his ego boost. he lives for that kinda of stuff posting anything and everything no matter how relevant the subject matter is.
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  11. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanleyyoung View Post
    he likes to see his topics/threads read, but most importantly its all for his ego boost. he lives for that kinda of stuff posting anything and everything no matter how relevant the subject matter is.
    First guy on my PvP hit list i suppose.
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    I used to be Noomy...then i took shiva's Hail Storm to my knee...

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