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    Fear's Avatar
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    Fear Vivi
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    I have a thought, has anyone actually wondered if the only reason grinding mobs "won't work" is because in the 2.0 gameplay vid the EXP from 50>51 is 550,000 instead of our 110,000 now.

    With that if they increased EXP needed for all levels maybe monster EXP will remain the same as it is now but quest EXP is huge to compensate the increased EXP needs.

    That would make mob grinding "not work" because it would take insane amounts of time
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    Rokien I'm your #1 hater around here but honestly, from a friend to a friend, your thread quality has really taken a dip lately.

    Please come up with better troll OPs because I feel you've really been lacking in punch lately.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fear View Post
    I have a thought, has anyone actually wondered if the only reason grinding mobs "won't work" is because in the 2.0 gameplay vid the EXP from 50>51 is 550,000 instead of our 110,000 now.
    Like I said in the thread about Gae Bolg's "reduced" stats, there is no point in speculating about mere numbers like that because, for all we know, it could take 5 times more exp to get to 50, but mobs also give 5 times more exp.

    There's no way of knowing any of this until we see some detailed, high-level gameplay or we try it ourselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    Sorry I dont trust Yoshi and I am agreeing with rokien and responding to some1 else.
    What is it with Hyur's with that weird hair-do? Is it like a distinctive thing you guys do to make sure you recognize other members of the Rokien crying and moaning club?
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    Last edited by Colino; 08-20-2012 at 06:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Hello again, it's me Rokien! So with Reinheart's translation, my initial worry was correct!

    "Yes, when you first reach a area by following the “!” (Exclamation mark) it leads to another ! We are currently making those links."
    Beats finding where all of the NPCs are. Unlike FFXI.
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    The important thing is that the quests mean something. I would much rather have longer quests for more exp than shorter point by point ones. The biggest, and number one gripe I have with WoW and all their clones is that there are really too many quests in the chain itself for me to even care about the world I have just been dropped in. Reading it all through is a severe test of patience I don't think anyone should be subjected to.
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    Without these type of quest it wouldn't be a true WoW clone. We NEED those quests.
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    No one has said that there will be pointlessly low exp from mobs, just that questing will be faster. In fact it may only be faster solo. You never know until you start.

    A good thing to consider is that there's currently an endgame exp grind (spiritbond), which would be after the last stop on the rails.

    If mobs give no exp then how do they expect us to SB? Well... I think the answer is that mobs give exp.
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    You mean I am forced to go through the content the developers worked their ass off creating for me? The insanity! Id rather have them create an open world fill it with mobs and say get to it! Only 500,000 more to kill until your cap! But now i may have to follow a story line and progress through the game and story in a organized manner! Now instead of wandering the world lost and confused with my web browser open to figure out where to go next, i can clearly see the path in front of me this is an outrage! *rolls eyes* I want to play FFXI 2.0! (ffxiv 1.0) not FFXIV 2.0!
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    I got to page 5 and couldn't read anymore. After writing three paragraphs arguing against Rokien's bullshit, I've decided not to dignify this troll with little more than one paragraph of dismissal. This guy is a notorious troll, people. That anyone believes him over what they can find in interviews is beyond me. Speaking of which, Rokien, you should have your reading comprehension checked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    I'll save you Yoshida!

    /casts Raise

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    You're Confirmed!
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    Agilo Sur
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    I have expressed concerns about this in 14 other threads but apparently Rokien is a lighting rod for these discussions. I am definitely concerned over the MMO on rails concept. However, Yoshi has earned a lot of my trust with how he turned 1.0 around. So, I am definitely concerned, not only because I don't like that style but I feel many others don't either. For example, if you go to a site like mmorpg.com you see forums full about how people hate this type of game structure and want new gameplay mechanics or fresh sandbox games. I personally won't like a MMO on rails but I also think it will fail altogether since people are sick of that gameplay.

    Hopefully, SE will recognize this and do a good job masking it with story (a la the Hildibrand quests) or make them somewhat dynamic (TSW, GW2).

    We will see.
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