[Dev 1011] Failing Guildleves Intentionally?

[Kilta_Firelotus]

go look at the patch notes

its not an exploit

and if you dont want to, then you give up all rights to argue the point anymore as you arent willing to back your side of it up either, we have

did you miss the part where i read every patch this game had? I didn't see it. so please link it for proof. I see similar exploits in WoW and Aion. to do similar things

the Aion death exploit prevented ppl from lvling up past 35 that way they can rift to an apposing enemy zone who main leve range was 20-25. they also used a form of a pocket phome point to stey logged in on the enemey zone. They did this for the bigger pvp points to get the gear faster.

I also have a good memory for typed text. so please link the info. Or ima assume its a lie.

[Jibe]

did you miss the part where i read every patch this game had? I didn't see it. so please link it for proof. I see similar exploits in WoW and Aion. to do similar things

the Aion death exploit prevented ppl from lvling up past 35 that way they can rift to an apposing enemy zone who main leve range was 20-25. they also used a form of a pocket phome point to stey logged in on the enemey zone. They did this for the bigger pvp points to get the gear faster.

I also have a good memory for typed text. so please link the info. Or ima assume its a lie.

Kilta foghladha i don't really think it's an exploit, just a possibly unintended side effect of the leve system. Let's not argue over whether it's an exploit or not. Let's just figure out ways to make the leve system super-de-duper awesome ok?

[Krausus]

did you miss the part where i read every patch this game had? I didn't see it. so please link it for proof. I see similar exploits in WoW and Aion. to do similar things

the Aion death exploit prevented ppl from lvling up past 35 that way they can rift to an apposing enemy zone who main leve range was 20-25. they also used a form of a pocket phome point to stey logged in on the enemey zone. They did this for the bigger pvp points to get the gear faster.

I also have a good memory for typed text. so please link the info. Or ima assume its a lie.

its not an exploit because it is not providing anyone with an unfair advantage, anyone can do it and you dont have to abuse a glitch to perform it, not to mention you loose all faction points and reward and a slight amount of SP. I could go around claiming anything is an exploit until a dev states otherwise as well, or I can use common sense and figure it out myself.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

its not an exploit because it is not providing anyone with an unfair advantage, anyone can do it and you dont have to abuse a glitch to perform it, not to mention you loose all faction points and reward and a slight amount of SP. I could go around claiming anything is an exploit until a dev states otherwise as well, or I can use common sense and figure it out myself.

an exploit is achiving anything easier. Don't need to be a glitch or anything. Like Aion. When you die you loose exp. ppl are using this to perma level or stick to the same level. There is no glitch or anything you just kill yourself repeatedly till you have an insane buyback for exp. who is this an expoit? you stick to lvl 35 which allowes you to enter a rift that leads to a zone with a level range of 35. You essially kill and earn pvp points after to twink your character who @ 35 can kill a level 50.

The leve abandoning sounds similar to that you fail a level to redo it to get the most sp from it.

[Krausus]

an exploit is achiving anything easier. Don't need to be a glitch or anything. Like Aion. When you die you loose exp. ppl are using this to perma level or stick to the same level. There is no glitch or anything you just kill yourself repeatedly till you have an insane buyback for exp. who is this an expoit? you stick to lvl 35 which allowes you to enter a rift that leads to a zone with a level range of 35. You essially kill and earn pvp points after to twink your character who @ 35 can kill a level 50.

The leve abandoning sounds similar to that you fail a level to redo it to get the most sp from it.

You are not getting the most SP from it in fact you loose out on SP from doing it from one kill, what you are doing is ensuring that you have this leave available 36 hours later. you are not getting an unfair advantage from it unlike the Aion one you speak of that does give an unfair advantage.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

You are not getting the most SP from it in fact you loose out on SP from doing it from one kill, what you are doing is ensuring that you have this leave available 36 hours later. you are not getting an unfair advantage from it unlike the Aion one you speak of that does give an unfair advantage.

its actually the same thing. the unfair advantage is you repeat the same levequest to "level faster" in a sence the death thing is ppl using an intented penalty at their advantage. pretty much failing and restarting the same guildleve is using it to your advantage. which make it an exploit. since it wasn't truely meant for that pupose. but again someone prove me wrong i'm full willing to appologise.

and honestly no one has any justified reason to have been rude to me. Sorry i'm not insulting anyone or trying to. I'm not trying to force ppl to do anything. I just had a suggestion which ppl could ignore. And the levequest system is nothing new a few ganes I did play have similar systems.

[darkstarpoet1]

its actually the same thing. the unfair advantage is you repeat the same levequest to "level faster" in a sence the death thing is ppl using an intented penalty at their advantage. pretty much failing and restarting the same guildleve is using it to your advantage. which make it an exploit. since it wasn't truely meant for that pupose. but again someone prove me wrong i'm full willing to appologise.

and honestly no one has any justified reason to have been rude to me. Sorry i'm not insulting anyone or trying to. I'm not trying to force ppl to do anything. I just had a suggestion which ppl could ignore. And the levequest system is nothing new a few ganes I did play have similar systems.

i just want to discuss so please don't take me as being rude, but want to show the other side. actually you are not getting more sp per kill technically. with a 4 person party if all 4 link you do not get 100% for all 4 of the members party. i'll do a simple example.

person 1(the starter) if a mob gives 100 per kill you get 100 sp here = 100
person 2(link) you get a 60% boost so you lose 40% = 60
person 3(link) you get a 60% boost so you lose 40% = 60
person 4(link) you get a 60% boost so you lose 40% = 60
in this example you would get 280 sp off the mobs in this leve

here is if you ran it 4 individual times

person 1(the starter) if a mob gives 100 per kill you get 100 sp here = 100
person 2(the starter) if a mob gives 100 per kill you get 100 sp here = 100
person 3(the starter) if a mob gives 100 per kill you get 100 sp here = 100
person 4(the starter) if a mob gives 100 per kill you get 100 sp here = 100
in this example you would get 400 sp off the mobs in this leve.

the reason people link and take the less sp is because if you put together an 8 person leve group you have 64 leves to run and instead of doing 64 individual runs you can reduce that amount to closer to 16 and everyone run those leves. yes, the leves do increase per run, but overall you are losing the sp you could be getting.

if you get rid of linking and reduce the sp for it parties will become non existent due to people do not have 12 hours to spend in one leve party knowing they only have 36 hours to complete them. all this would do is force more people to solo because the party sp by doing leves would not be efficient. even if you made sp even on all leves and made every leve open every reset the group of 8 would still all link the 8 leves together due to time efficiency.