[Dev 1011] Failing Guildleves Intentionally?

[Zkieve]

All you can do is 8 leves every 36hours , in top of it is completely random what you get so there is no really a chance to get a leve link party going wich is , btw . one of the very few activities you can do with a party efficiently right now.So yea failing the leves promotes PARTY PLAY.

And you want to call one of the very few reasons to party everyday cheating because SE can not think ahead of what people going or not going to do ?
get out of here.better take away the option to party at all .

[Kilta_Firelotus]

All you can do is 8 leves every 36hours , in top of it is completely random what you get so there is no really a chance to get a leve link party going wich is , btw . one of the very few activities you can do with a party efficiently right now.So yea failing the leves promotes PARTY PLAY.

And you want to call one of the very few reasons to party everyday cheating because SE can not think ahead of what people going or not going to do ?
get out of here.better take away the option to party at all .

you never did fov pages in ffxi did you... that also promoted party play also. even better lower level party play.
the way levequest that was to promote party play is you can do levequests not stop you just join ppl doing their leves. just ppl complained about not getting epic rewards.

[Zkieve]

you never did fov pages in ffxi did you... that also promoted party play also. even better lower level party play.
the way levequest that was to promote party play is you can do levequests not stop you just join ppl doing their leves. just ppl complained about not getting epic rewards.

please just stop it with the fov thin , this is ffxiv and guild leves we talking about , stay on topic . For real i wish you would start playing the game already so you had a clue wth your talking bout.1.2k posts about a game you never played.

-I know a lot of toronto i can be your guide there!.
-OK! how many times you been there !
-NEVER.
-ok./walks away slowly.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

please just stop it with the fov thin , this is ffxiv and guild leves we talking about , stay on topic . For real i wish you would start playing the game already so you had a clue wth your talking bout.1.2k posts about a game you never played.

-I know a lot of toronto i can be your guide there!.
-OK! how many times you been there !
-NEVER.
-ok./walks away slowly.

so i want levequest more set up like fov pages.. they are techi the same thing. you get a kill quest to kill mobs you get gil and sp reward wuth a item bonus.

fov pages was a page to kill mobs and you get exp gil and tabs as a reward. SE took out the limitation on doing 1 page an hour just limited gil and tabs for an hour. same thing can be done with levequests. Oh and tabs are replaces with items in the levequests.
but the core is the same.

[Zkieve]

so i want levequest more set up like fov pages.. they are techi the same thing. you get a kill quest to kill mobs you get gil and sp reward wuth a item bonus.

fov pages was a page to kill mobs and you get exp gil and tabs as a reward. SE took out the limitation on doing 1 page an hour just limited gil and tabs for an hour. same thing can be done with levequests. Oh and tabs are replaces with items in the levequests.
but the core is the same.

I really want to be polite and nice , but sometimes a please shut up , is due.
You got no idea how guildleves work , there are nothing like FoV, so if you could stop arguing that you do know about it would be really gentle of you.

[Evangela]

It's nothing.... just because that leve is a good leve and ppl want to do it again when the reset time come

they have to sacrifice the leve reward in exchange to keep the leve they want

I think it's fair

[Kilta_Firelotus]

care to explain how a FOV page is different the a levequest?

1 Fields of valore page: you go to the book and pick 1 of 5 pages. Each page tell you what mobs to kill. You kill said mobs and you get an exp reward a gil reward and 10% are tabs.

2 Levequests: you go to the counter you pick 8 guildleves you choose to read what it is about, go to the camp you need to activate a guildleve and kill each mob you need to (which appears in a semi instance) you kill them all get sp gil and a possible item. (unless it isn't you leve)

simple version

1 fov page: click pafe till x mob or xy mob or xyz mob rewarded exp gil tabs

2 levequest: get guildleve activate it kill x mob, xy mob, xyz mob. rewarded sp, gil item (maybe)

so again how are they different? just because a levequests has a quest conntected to it?

a good explination would help if you feel I don;t understand. How about instead of insulting me or shutting me up you correct my error.

[Krausus]

well for one thing you don't get an sp/xp reward for completing a leve, all your sp/xp is rewarded for killing the mobs in a leave. You also get % bonuses for party members and you can link the same leve for even higher bonus. on top of that you can use guardians aspect to have an even higher bonus. Then you have 36 hour reset timers, which what was fov timer? couple of hours?

[Kilta_Firelotus]

well for one thing you don't get an sp/xp reward for completing a leve, all your sp/xp is rewarded for killing the mobs in a leave. You also get % bonuses for party members and you can link the same leve for even higher bonus. on top of that you can use guardians aspect to have an even higher bonus. Then you have 36 hour reset timers, which what was fov timer? couple of hours?

they took out the fov reset timer. I wasn't really talking about rewards but the basic outline of what you do.

GF is pretty much like the exp ring from the sound of it. Butr thank you for the correct on what happens when you complete a leve. But still the basic core is the same. so at the core they are the same. you get a page or guildleve and kill the mobs you need to. Just the levequest improves this by having mobs appeared taged for u or group.

what gets me is why ppl only do their 8 when they could be joing other and essensially do non stop levequests. instead of doing their 8 and logging off.

[Krausus]

they took out the fov reset timer. I wasn't really talking about rewards but the basic outline of what you do.

GF is pretty much like the exp ring from the sound of it. Butr thank you for the correct on what happens when you complete a leve. But still the basic core is the same. so at the core they are the same. you get a page or guildleve and kill the mobs you need to. Just the levequest improves this by having mobs appeared taged for u or group.

what gets me is why ppl only do their 8 when they could be joing other and essensially do non stop levequests. instead of doing their 8 and logging off.

well there are a couple of reasons, first not bringing leves to the party unless you are in a LS group is usually frowned upon, second without links without aspect (which you tend to save for the good leves with links since it is limited) you might as well just be grinding because the SP is essentially the same. I know it is probably difficult to understand without actually doing it but once you start playing (assuming nothing changes by then) then you will be able to see why.

if you are a hardcore SPer then you would essentially do all the good leves (all 3 of them) linked up with 3 friends twice in a row because you will have 4 other people in the party with the same leves ready to link theirs and then you would move onto grinding raptors.