What are your thoughts on 2.0's summoning system?

[KingBerry]

Yeh I think it was and still kinda think it's dumb but what I do know there are certain avatars he made demigods but not all. I am a big summoner class fan as long as yoshi gives us fenrir,Phoenix, and other known cool looking avatars for summoner with the same but completely different SMN from XI is god with me I just don't like the Demi god idea just make them avatars or give us a weaker version of ifrit or something

[Alaltus]

This information is extremely old.

I love his idea for summoning primals because in-game they are pretty much deities so it makes sense that they would be a big thing and the world's weather changing sounds awesome.

Summoner will still be around and will summon lesser beings, they've said so a million times already. Stuff like Carbuncle and if the 2.0 concept art is any indication, Fenrir and Cait Sith.

Typhon is also a good possibility =)

I expect you're right, but considering Fenrir usually exists in the same relm as Shiva and the others, I was kind of expecting to see something different for SMN. Like maybe the Summons from FFXII.

Personally i'd rather completely new summons altogether before the the zodiac summons... they are just boring to me not enough definition between them.

I agree with the idea of keeping the current primals out of reach to keep from cheapening their place in the lore but i'm not sure about the idea it just sounds like an easy button at the very least it doesnt deserve priority if thats all it is.

[Mijin]

Typhon is also a good possibility =)



Personally i'd rather completely new summons altogether before the the zodiac summons... they are just boring to me not enough definition between them.

I agree with the idea of keeping the current primals out of reach to keep from cheapening their place in the lore but i'm not sure about the idea it just sounds like an easy button at the very least it doesnt deserve priority if thats all it is.

Maybe they could add summons based on the guardian deities. I like the Zodiac ones though personally especially Adramelech for some reason:

[ssppiikkeeyy]

to me this is problem the worst idea i've heard for 2.0 everything else is going to be awesome tho. This here really does kill summoner the mean idea of summoner was to summoner great gods to fight for you for a limit time taking a great drain on you're life.

Now that said i do like the idea when they summon the god, the world is going to change so everyone noes its been summoned now thats pretty sweet but at the same time i rather this not happen and they gives us a real summoner job.

The reason Summoner is the biggest request job was because of how great it was back in XI, But saying this is XIV it does need some changes to work with this system. I think they could change it to work with this system but keep the idea of what a summoner really is.

Sorry Yoshi i will defend you on this game about everything else but on this i sorry i have to disagree with you

(Edit)

Just pop in my head what they could do for some of the God's they could make Odin walk around and him being the 2 week summon like they did in ffxi with the 2hr, but i prefer to have the 6 gods fighting by my side everyday and be able to interact with them like give them High Fives

The 6 Main Gods (I cant spell there names but hope u no what i'm trying to spell)

• Ifrit
• Garuda
• Shiva
• Titan
• Levatian
• Ramuh

These guys summon by you're side any time.

The God That Rom/2 Weeks Summon

• Odin

All i can think of right now but i do no there are loads of other great god that could take there place

[Inaaca]

I'm surprised that the most recent information/clarification hasn't even been mentioned in this thread. Here:

RPG Site: Primal fights will become roaming in 2.0 for the summoning system; are there any specifics you could go into? Will weapons and things like that still be obtainable, and will there still be instanced fights like which are available in the current version?
Yoshida: Most of the primals will not be “roaming” the public areas, and their battles will still be instanced, though it will be more challenging to discover these instances.
Koji: It looks like there was a little bit of misinformation given at the E3 interview (and this may have been my fault, or it may have been Yoshida-san’s). The implication given was that all the primals would be roaming, and once they were summoned, they would pop somewhere else in the world. This is not the case. While roaming primal are still not out of the question, the summonable deities will be instanced-based, with the primal going back to these instances once they’ve been summoned. However, players will still have to look for these instances once they’ve become available, preventing camping.

Source: http://www.rpgsite.net/articles/397-...oper-interview


Clarifies that the primals will not actually be roaming, and the fights will still be instanced, with the instances changing location every time the primal is summoned.

Also note that Yoshi says MOST of the primals will not be roaming. We already know, for instance, that Odin will be a roaming primal.

[Aryden]

Interesting discussion here. I had a question for you guys that is somewhat off topic, but could support the OP when fleshed out.

How exactly is a SMN going to work in the current system? The current two mage jobs have very specific roles (healing and dmg). If SMN is a more supportive role, what job abilities will they actually have? What two support jobs will they be connected to?

I'm excited to see how it is implemented, but I'm having a difficult time seeing how they will actually work.

I'm interested in your thoughts. Thanks.

[Mijin]

I'm surprised that the most recent information/clarification hasn't even been mentioned in this thread. Here:

Source: http://www.rpgsite.net/articles/397-...oper-interview


Clarifies that the primals will not actually be roaming, and the fights will still be instanced, with the instances changing location every time the primal is summoned.

Also note that Yoshi says MOST of the primals will not be roaming. We already know, for instance, that Odin will be a roaming primal.

Yeah I thought I read some other comments on the subject but I couldn't remember for sure. I added that interview to OP.

Okay, so most of them wont be roaming. This still doesn't answer the question... What's the purpose of all this? It seems really bazaar and pointless.

IHow exactly is a SMN going to work in the current system? The current two mage jobs have very specific roles (healing and dmg). If SMN is a more supportive role, what job abilities will they actually have? What two support jobs will they be connected to?

Yohida has made statements in interviews that the current job system is set up that multiple jobs can be built off each class. I'm sure SMN will be built off either CNJ or THM, but any further than that your guess is as good as mine.

[Seohyun]

I don't really like this idea at all. Like someone else said, I feel like this system will just involve a lot of drama. And further stroke some of the elitist egos out there. While I know this isn't FFXI, and it shouldn't be compared to it. I would have liked that system instead. Because you still had to work a lot in order to get your "prime" avatars, and it was in no way easy.

If not, then they should have left the primals out of it and came out with another system. (someone mentioned the zodiacs above and it was a good idea) This is kind of a shame to me, as summoner was the thing I was anticipating most in 2.0.

[KylePearlsand]

Well here is the thing. Not much was mentioned about summoner as a class. I am sure they will have something for them such as Carbuncle and the Zodiac. Considering dialog from the Primals themselves, they are not likely to stick around for long. Which I think would be put in quite nicely considering what has been said. Primals are one of a kind and I really wouldn't want to see Ifrit appearing in multiple times in the same area as, for me, would ruin the lore. But I do agree about the Drama. If for instance, I were to get the last primal, I do not want to get angry tells from Masamune Linkshell Leader A. Though I can't be sure until it is put in the game.

[prymortal]

In wirtting i dont like it, but as i havn't tryed it i wont judge it untill after i try it. SO FAR 2.0 has & is living up to expectations, (just not the team as a whole). so im giving him benifit of the doubt till i try it.