Thread: What are your thoughts on 2.0's summoning system?

Well here is the thing. Not much was mentioned about summoner as a class. I am sure they will have something for them such as Carbuncle and the Zodiac. Considering dialog from the Primals themselves, they are not likely to stick around for long. Which I think would be put in quite nicely considering what has been said. Primals are one of a kind and I really wouldn't want to see Ifrit appearing in multiple times in the same area as, for me, would ruin the lore. But I do agree about the Drama. If for instance, I were to get the last primal, I do not want to get angry tells from Masamune Linkshell Leader A. Though I can't be sure until it is put in the game.

But 2.0 hasn't come out yet...

I think, conceptually, the idea is very innovative and different (which people seem to like these days).

Now hear me out guys. The idea does indeed take away from the original Final Fantasy sense of the summon, but it takes gameplay deeper in a different sense. It turns what is normally an individual activity into several layers of community. In a single player FF, it is understandable that you can summon these gods because you are the only one playing. (and I'm not trying to talk about lore or anything like that) Having something that a community needs to work together on to achieve, and also decide together when to lose what they have achieved I think is a good enough reason to sacrifice individual summoning of a larger scale. Not only can this have an impact on Player community reputation, it can improve a sense of a world for each server.

Right now, there are a few linkshells that are somewhat well known (a few I'm sure can come to your mind). They earn reputation through the things they have recorded themselves and shared with the rest of us. The majority of FFXIV players are not in the same server as those linkshells.
With these primals, I see the devs hoping that having something that can be spread by word of mouth can improve a given world's population and community. Instead of knowing linkshells from other servers and 1 or 2 from your own, people will know the free companies within their own servers because the word will spread about who has done what. Even a Free-Company made of only a few players can gain notoriety for catching a primal. My hopes are that this idea will help improve server pride and server politics.
Free Company rivalries, underdogs, and popularity can be a result of this. It's hard to explain how I see this abstract relationship between Server Community and Primals, but I can see where the devs are going.

Originally Posted by MrKupo

I think, conceptually, the idea is very innovative and different (which people seem to like these days).

Now hear me out guys. The idea does indeed take away from the original Final Fantasy sense of the summon, but it takes gameplay deeper in a different sense. It turns what is normally an individual activity into several layers of community. In a single player FF, it is understandable that you can summon these gods because you are the only one playing. (and I'm not trying to talk about lore or anything like that) Having something that a community needs to work together on to achieve, and also decide together when to lose what they have achieved I think is a good enough reason to sacrifice individual summoning of a larger scale. Not only can this have an impact on Player community reputation, it can improve a sense of a world for each server.

Right now, there are a few linkshells that are somewhat well known (a few I'm sure can come to your mind). They earn reputation through the things they have recorded themselves and shared with the rest of us. The majority of FFXIV players are not in the same server as those linkshells.
With these primals, I see the devs hoping that having something that can be spread by word of mouth can improve a given world's population and community. Instead of knowing linkshells from other servers and 1 or 2 from your own, people will know the free companies within their own servers because the word will spread about who has done what. Even a Free-Company made of only a few players can gain notoriety for catching a primal. My hopes are that this idea will help improve server pride and server politics.
Free Company rivalries, underdogs, and popularity can be a result of this. It's hard to explain how I see this abstract relationship between Server Community and Primals, but I can see where the devs are going.

I agree with the sentiment. Its also of course a possability to go the other way. here you may of community resentment between Free companies, but then it may be a little like No-sec space in Eve-Online where everyone wants eachother dead. And it will make me feel a little like home ^^

I also see it as a way to put in HNMs that man people have requested but ones that matter for something other than Best in Slot gear. Free companies that liked HNM fights/camps get something akin to it. And get a super powerful card up their sleeve to boot. I'll personally find it interesting if claims of "I liked camping HNMs more then getting the gear they dropped" are infact honest.

In my opinion i like the idea of keeping the major icons of summoning seperate from Classes and Jobs. I wasn't looking forward to seeing 20+ Ifrits bounding around behind people like their on leashes. Let Carbuncle be enslaved