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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    and that's why its a game cause you don't have to. People don't have to. or Like you said right here,





    INSTANTLY label him a noob cause hes never done it? Maybe he had just got his first 50 or a returning play that left before AV was out then came back? are you that much of an elitist? Its so hard to tell a person to follow you and avoid the acid pits? or just spam aoes when they need to?

    And shell hoppers? YOUR one of them you barely EVER did anything in our shell. You only ever came in the shell for you own benefit always asking "hey can anyone help me with....". I dont mind people that have other shells i don't. i hate the ones with others shell who only come in ours and are like gimme gimme gimme.

    You are lucky you left our shell before i read this i would've booted you in one second. I don't want someone like you wearing our flag representing us and giving us a bad name.
    You act like i'm attacking you or your LS or something. Well now i will.

    You're a PST LS. I'm in EST and, i know it's hard to believe because it's contrary from 90% of players on this game, but i do work for a living irl so i don't stay up til 5am every night. When you guys are gathering i'm on the verge of hitting the sack. And i never heard a single complaint about that. If anything, i was treated as an outsider due to the time zone difference. Kaiko was the only person who even tried to work with me half the time. I did things with your LS on weekends when there were actually sign ups on the site. And for the record i never got anything from AK. Pretty sure i even passed a piece of Darklight, not that you were ever in those runs anyway. Maybe i got a hamlet seal one of the times i ran with you guys? I don't remember, most of those were from Hamlet LS runs or PUGs. Maybe some Moogle weapons from over a year ago? Which everyone else also got. The point is i gave my time to help on things for little to nothing in return so don't go dragging my name through the mud. Fact of the matter is you guys weren't doing the things i needed help on anyway so there comes a point where it's hard to justify spending all my time there for nothing in return. I don't think it's a big deal to ask for something as simple as killing one NM in that case either. Not sure what else you would be referring to me asking for, especially outside the past month or so.

    And yes, the fact that we never achieved 17 min runs in AV that night or even speed runs for that matter makes that person a noob along with the other half of the pt who was sucking (this wasn't even with AK, if that's what you were thinking). I've taken part in those runs, it's not hard. There's more to it than just following someone. You have to know what's coming and adapt to everyone else i.e. at least been there before and been successful to see how your role plays out in the big picture. When your "follow, avoid acid pits and aoe spam when needed" gets you those runs, get back to me.

    And shell hoppers? How dare you accuse me of that. From the moment i joined AK it was never my "main" LS nor was it ever asked to be, especially considering i already had an "endgame" shell at the time. It's always been a social shell for me regardless of how you view the type of LS it is yourself. I also find it funny how Kya actually is one of the biggest shell hoppers i know, and yet she holds or at least held (not sure lately) a sack in AK and everyone loves her. She even calls it a social LS herself, yet i see no one lashing out at that. I guess that's because she's one of those ppl with no job that stays up til 5am with you guys and shows/tells you what you want to see/hear, which apparently is what you percieve as a "good member".

    Maybe you'll be pleased to know that i have no LS anymore. Gee, i'm such a huge shell hopper, right? Maybe if you played the game with any sincerety (oh wait, that's not "playing" to you) you would actually be able to make these accusations of yours with any basis of truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riv View Post
    You act like i'm attacking you or your LS or something. Well now i will.

    You're a PST LS. I'm in EST and, i know it's hard to believe because it's contrary from 90% of players on this game, but i do work for a living irl so i don't stay up til 5am every night. When you guys are gathering i'm on the verge of hitting the sack. And i never heard a single complaint about that. If anything, i was treated as an outsider due to the time zone difference. Kaiko was the only person who even tried to work with me half the time. I did things with your LS on weekends when there were actually sign ups on the site. And for the record i never got anything from AK. Pretty sure i even passed a piece of Darklight, not that you were ever in those runs anyway. Maybe i got a hamlet seal one of the times i ran with you guys? I don't remember, most of those were from Hamlet LS runs or PUGs. Maybe some Moogle weapons from over a year ago? Which everyone else also got. The point is i gave my time to help on things for little to nothing in return so don't go dragging my name through the mud. Fact of the matter is you guys weren't doing the things i needed help on anyway so there comes a point where it's hard to justify spending all my time there for nothing in return. I don't think it's a big deal to ask for something as simple as killing one NM in that case either. Not sure what else you would be referring to me asking for, especially outside the past month or so.

    And yes, the fact that we never achieved 17 min runs in AV that night or even speed runs for that matter makes that person a noob along with the other half of the pt who was sucking (this wasn't even with AK, if that's what you were thinking). I've taken part in those runs, it's not hard. There's more to it than just following someone. You have to know what's coming and adapt to everyone else i.e. at least been there before and been successful to see how your role plays out in the big picture. When your "follow, avoid acid pits and aoe spam when needed" gets you those runs, get back to me.

    And shell hoppers? How dare you accuse me of that. From the moment i joined AK it was never my "main" LS nor was it ever asked to be, especially considering i already had an "endgame" shell at the time. It's always been a social shell for me regardless of how you view the type of LS it is yourself. I also find it funny how Kya actually is one of the biggest shell hoppers i know, and yet she holds or at least held (not sure lately) a sack in AK and everyone loves her. She even calls it a social LS herself, yet i see no one lashing out at that. I guess that's because she's one of those ppl with no job that stays up til 5am with you guys and shows/tells you what you want to see/hear, which apparently is what you percieve as a "good member".

    Maybe you'll be pleased to know that i have no LS anymore. Gee, i'm such a huge shell hopper, right? Maybe if you played the game with any sincerety (oh wait, that's not "playing" to you) you would actually be able to make these accusations of yours with any basis of truth.
    Oh really? I EST to and i usually only stay up till 2 am and work at 6 making a living irl too so your can get off that high horse working class bullshit.

    And sorry i didnt make that run that dark light dropped cause the over night guy at my jobs wife was having a kid and i covered his shift so he could got to the hospital and watch his new baby girl being born. Nice job saying shit before you make assumptions.

    And hell i need absolutely nothing from AV,Ifrit,Garuda, CC, moogle, or DH yet i still do them cause even though i get nothing out of them cause i actually enjoy helping people with them.

    So to tell the newer person to follow Person A, and to Flare all at the same time to kill flower, diremits, mushrooms and to not fall into the GIANT YELLOW POOLS, is SOOOOO hard?

    good i hope all the players you call "Noobs" drive you crazy and force you to quit, while i'm still here having fun. Playing with my friends, and helping people who need it instead of calling them noobs and storming off like a child. Cause they learn and if not oh well i'll adapt to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    Oh really? I EST to and i usually only stay up till 2 am and work at 6 making a living irl too so your can get off that high horse working class bullshit.

    And sorry i didnt make that run that dark light dropped cause the over night guy at my jobs wife was having a kid and i covered his shift so he could got to the hospital and watch his new baby girl being born. Nice job saying shit before you make assumptions.

    And hell i need absolutely nothing from AV,Ifrit,Garuda, CC, moogle, or DH yet i still do them cause even though i get nothing out of them cause i actually enjoy helping people with them.

    So to tell the newer person to follow Person A, and to Flare all at the same time to kill flower, diremits, mushrooms and to not fall into the GIANT YELLOW POOLS, is SOOOOO hard?

    good i hope all the players you call "Noobs" drive you crazy and force you to quit, while i'm still here having fun. Playing with my friends, and helping people who need it instead of calling them noobs and storming off like a child. Cause they learn and if not oh well i'll adapt to it.
    I never had any beef with you or anyone else in particular. This is unfortunate and i get no joy out of it.

    Again on the AV thing, get back to me when you have your Miser's Mythril. You're talking like you have successfully done all this. Everything is easy by itself when you're resigned to getting by doing the very least possible. You can explain to people what to do and how to do it all you want but when they fail to listen or follow through with it, fail to improve over time, are too damn slow to react in time or simply don't want to be part of a successful team and are just here to "shoot the shit", then they are noobs. This was just reinforced by a CC PUG i was in. You are making it sound like i'm saying it's hard. That's the point i'm trying to get across, IT'S NOT HARD. But obviously for the majority of people it is, which just boggles my mind. The human race in general is full of fucking idiots though so i guess it comes as no surprise that it carries over to this game.

    I don't know anything about your story about the darklight. Chances are that didn't even happen during the instance i was referring to. If you're trying to say you have rl obligations, fine. Who doesn't? But you completely missed my point, regardless.

    I'm not on any high horse working class BS. GJ for working on 4 hours of sleep? Let me know your secret to how i can do that with 12-16 hour days M-F that don't involve sitting on my ass at a computer or flipping burgers. Really, i want to know.

    Some people have the drive to make themselves (or their characters) better, some don't. You and many other people on this game are obviously the latter. It's just differeing lines of thinking and i don't care how people align themselves, but when someone is surrounded by people that are not like minded this is what happens.
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    Last edited by Riv; 08-06-2012 at 11:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riv View Post
    Maybe you'll be pleased to know that i have no LS anymore. Gee, i'm such a huge shell hopper, right? Maybe if you played the game with any sincerety (oh wait, that's not "playing" to you) you would actually be able to make these accusations of yours with any basis of truth.
    You have no shell because no one wants you in one... Stop bitching at those looking for a correct shell and viewing yourself as all high and mighty for not doing so...

    Go sit in a corner... Or get good son...
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    Player Riv's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryfe View Post
    You have no shell because no one wants you in one... Stop bitching at those looking for a correct shell and viewing yourself as all high and mighty for not doing so...

    Go sit in a corner... Or get good son...
    Don't remember doing anything with you. You also make it sound like i was kicked from every LS i had.

    Anchorman 2 yesplz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riv View Post
    Don't remember doing anything with you.
    That is because i choose not to participate with pompous forum preachers with no in game skill...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryfe View Post
    That is because i choose not to participate with pompous forum preachers with no in game skill...
    Nice try. What's your reason for the last 2 years? Now you act as if i've been making these posts my entire time playing XIV, followed by another baseless accusation"..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riv View Post
    Nice try. What's your reason for the last 2 years? Now you act as if i've been making these posts my entire time playing XIV, followed by another baseless accusation"..."
    Hmm, didn't you do your 17min runs with all Perfection?

    Pretty sure I remember you doing them with us... Not saying we carried you or anything, but its not like you were the all-star when you got your miser ores..

    Either way, I'd PT with you because I'm not about politics, I'm about results.

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    Scarface Champion, back from the dead.....AGAIN... 3 strikes and I'm out? Lawl
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    Reported them

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    This sounds awesome!! Can't wait to esperience it!!

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    Player Riv's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierBlade View Post
    Hmm, didn't you do your 17min runs with all Perfection?

    Pretty sure I remember you doing them with us... Not saying we carried you or anything, but its not like you were the all-star when you got your miser ores..

    Either way, I'd PT with you because I'm not about politics, I'm about results.

    ~Champ
    It was like half the pt perf and half were pick ups or other regular, non perf members iirc. I don't remember who all from perf was there except you and insta.

    I didn't get anything as i wasn't on that part of the quest. But it was fun to not be in a derp run anyway, and see that it really is quite easy when ppl are doing what they are supposed to be doing. Either way i was running parser that night and was pulling my own weight.

    I'm not saying i'm boss at FFXIV, it takes a team anyway. I'm saying the majority of players don't even try to do any more than the absolute minimum or have any motivation to do the "hard" stuff. There's not enough of everyone else to go around to make those teams.
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