The whole 'One Linkshell Rule' thing...

[Aleyah]

If you don't like it you can always go play "Hello Kitty Island Adventure"^^

[Denmo]

Just curious if this is The Inner Circle from Quetzalcoatl, that started after Champions of Vana'diel disbanded? I was in CoV, and had a pearl for IC, but pretty much quit when CoV fell apart. Wanted to say Hi if it is.

Inner Circle was around since Midgardsormr. Your IC might be an offshoot of the one I was in, or the same thing. I left before they became Quetzalcoatl.

I was never in CoV.

[Riv]

The problem is there are so many fucking noobs in this game, and we aren't even at PS3 release yet. Even the so called actual endgame LS's struggle to find decent players and are therefore half filled with noobs. I did an AV run a few weeks ago with one of my LS and there was at least one dude who had never even done AV before. Really? At this stage of the game? And it's no wonder that group could barely handle speed runs, much less 17 min ones. It's a story that's repeated itself for many LS on the server. I can think of like 2 NA LS that actually accomplish things without having major derp fests.

People try things with different LS out of desperation. I'm not saying i approve of shell hoppers, in fact I hate them. I wish i did have one LS that could get everything done that i wanted to do. But when you're forced to fail shit repeatedly due to filling the pt with the noobs of your LS, it's frustrating.

The fact of the matter is that there aren't enough "good" or dedicated players on the game right now. The ones that are around are already in the aforementioned LS's that actually get shit done. In my experience, most people think they are better players than they actually are.

[Grimwald]

The problem is there are so many fucking noobs in this game, and we aren't even at PS3 release yet. Even the so called actual endgame LS's struggle to find decent players and are therefore half filled with noobs. I did an AV run a few weeks ago with one of my LS and there was at least one dude who had never even done AV before. Really? At this stage of the game? And it's no wonder that group could barely handle speed runs, much less 17 min ones. It's a story that's repeated itself for many LS on the server. I can think of like 2 NA LS that actually accomplish things without having major derp fests.

People try things with different LS out of desperation. I'm not saying i approve of shell hoppers, in fact I hate them. I wish i did have one LS that could get everything done that i wanted to do. But when you're forced to fail shit repeatedly due to filling the pt with the noobs of your LS, it's frustrating.

The fact of the matter is that there aren't enough "good" or dedicated players on the game right now. The ones that are around are already in the aforementioned LS's that actually get shit done. In my experience, most people think they are better players than they actually are.

You have to train newer players, or you're never going to find that LS you're looking for. Not everyone has played this game while it was pretty awful (and let's be honest, it's still very mediocre) and did the content right as it came out.

You're going to have to invest in the community to see a return.

[Riv]

It's a futile effort, espcially when the noobs can't be bothered to actually put any time or money into improving their character or listen/react to instructions. It's like they expect the content to fall over for them and give them the gear they need to actually win the content from the content itself. Not to mention that in the time it takes to "train" these idiots, Dalamud will have already crushed us all.

And i'm still amazed at how many people haven't (or hadn't b4 the GC quests forced some of them) even killed the open world NMs.

[Grimwald]

It's a futile effort, espcially when the noobs can't be bothered to actually put any time or money into improving their character or listen/react to instructions. It's like they expect the content to fall over for them and give them the gear they need to actually win the content from the content itself. Not to mention that in the time it takes to "train" these idiots, Dalamud will have already crushed us all.

And i'm still amazed at how many people haven't (or hadn't b4 the GC quests forced some of them) even killed the open world NMs.

I guess you've had bad luck then. We've had great luck investing in them, albeit 1 of the 5 we've put effort in didn't show returns though. They're all 100% self sufficient too.

[Riv]

I guess you've had bad luck then. We've had great luck investing in them, albeit 1 of the 5 we've put effort in didn't show returns though. They're all 100% self sufficient too.

So you're getting relics?

[Grimwald]

So you're getting relics?

Who isn't? A few of our members have already done the speed runs, but the majority of us are doing Hamlet still.

[Giit]

Who isn't?....

myself, and a whole lot of other people.

[Riv]

Who isn't? A few of our members have already done the speed runs, but the majority of us are doing Hamlet still.

Well yes, i was more referring to the 17's, Garuda and Ifrit.