The whole 'One Linkshell Rule' thing...

[XavierBlade]

To be honest, if you're a brand new LS, and your ENTIRE LS has not done some of the most basic content (Av/CC/DH/Ifrit/Moogle) then its fine to learn as you go...

For those of us who have been founded since day 1, and beat all the content as it was released... it's just not worth it to wipe 15 times learning stuff that's been out 3months+

We have carried people through content (by we I mean the LS), just because we were short 1 person... but here and there you find someone who actually knows what they're doing, and even though they have never played with you, or your strat they can adapt, and understand the content enough to change their style on a whim.

This is what makes the players in your linkshell stronger (figuratively). Anyone can memorize content, and a strat...but when you get thrown into content that you've done one way, and can adapt easily then you've made it.

This is what "endgame" LSs are looking for...not someone who knows how to do 1 piece of content really well because they've spammed it for weeks. Those are the players who wait until "nerfs" or videos come out to attempt new content.

There's probably less than 20 of these people on this server, because the rest are in an endgame LS already. Then they end up doing content with 10 different linkshells because that person can adapt... and the others are *JUST* good enough to do the same content over and over, with the same people, and same strat.

[Riv]

Need more non-noob LS's to be made.

[SirOleas]

Need more non-noob LS's to be made.

You said it.
The problem is finding people who don't suck that aren't already in a dedicated linkshell.

[Riv]

You said it.
The problem is finding people who don't suck that aren't already in a dedicated linkshell.

And finding an ls that actually does things on a regular basis, with dedicated ppl that actually want to win and not just playing the game to derp.

[Denmo]

And finding an ls that actually does things on a regular basis, with dedicated ppl that actually want to win and not just playing the game to derp.

But it's a game.

Derp.

[KoujiGeki]

its a game not a job.

[Riv]

Doesn't mean you shouldn't do everything it has to offer.

[Jinrya-Geki]

Doesn't mean you shouldn't do everything it has to offer.

If that meant screwing over players, and not having fun, I am sure as hell am not going to do everything in this game.

[KoujiGeki]

and that's why its a game cause you don't have to. People don't have to. or Like you said right here,

The problem is there are so many fucking noobs in this game, and we aren't even at PS3 release yet. Even the so called actual endgame LS's struggle to find decent players and are therefore half filled with noobs. I did an AV run a few weeks ago with one of my LS and there was at least one dude who had never even done AV before. Really? At this stage of the game? And it's no wonder that group could barely handle speed runs, much less 17 min ones. It's a story that's repeated itself for many LS on the server. I can think of like 2 NA LS that actually accomplish things without having major derp fests.

People try things with different LS out of desperation. I'm not saying i approve of shell hoppers, in fact I hate them. I wish i did have one LS that could get everything done that i wanted to do. But when you're forced to fail shit repeatedly due to filling the pt with the noobs of your LS, it's frustrating.

The fact of the matter is that there aren't enough "good" or dedicated players on the game right now. The ones that are around are already in the aforementioned LS's that actually get shit done. In my experience, most people think they are better players than they actually are.

INSTANTLY label him a noob cause hes never done it? Maybe he had just got his first 50 or a returning play that left before AV was out then came back? are you that much of an elitist? Its so hard to tell a person to follow you and avoid the acid pits? or just spam aoes when they need to?

And shell hoppers? YOUR one of them you barely EVER did anything in our shell. You only ever came in the shell for you own benefit always asking "hey can anyone help me with....". I dont mind people that have other shells i don't. i hate the ones with others shell who only come in ours and are like gimme gimme gimme.

You are lucky you left our shell before i read this i would've booted you in one second. I don't want someone like you wearing our flag representing us and giving us a bad name.

[Riv]

and that's why its a game cause you don't have to. People don't have to. or Like you said right here,





INSTANTLY label him a noob cause hes never done it? Maybe he had just got his first 50 or a returning play that left before AV was out then came back? are you that much of an elitist? Its so hard to tell a person to follow you and avoid the acid pits? or just spam aoes when they need to?

And shell hoppers? YOUR one of them you barely EVER did anything in our shell. You only ever came in the shell for you own benefit always asking "hey can anyone help me with....". I dont mind people that have other shells i don't. i hate the ones with others shell who only come in ours and are like gimme gimme gimme.

You are lucky you left our shell before i read this i would've booted you in one second. I don't want someone like you wearing our flag representing us and giving us a bad name.

You act like i'm attacking you or your LS or something. Well now i will.

You're a PST LS. I'm in EST and, i know it's hard to believe because it's contrary from 90% of players on this game, but i do work for a living irl so i don't stay up til 5am every night. When you guys are gathering i'm on the verge of hitting the sack. And i never heard a single complaint about that. If anything, i was treated as an outsider due to the time zone difference. Kaiko was the only person who even tried to work with me half the time. I did things with your LS on weekends when there were actually sign ups on the site. And for the record i never got anything from AK. Pretty sure i even passed a piece of Darklight, not that you were ever in those runs anyway. Maybe i got a hamlet seal one of the times i ran with you guys? I don't remember, most of those were from Hamlet LS runs or PUGs. Maybe some Moogle weapons from over a year ago? Which everyone else also got. The point is i gave my time to help on things for little to nothing in return so don't go dragging my name through the mud. Fact of the matter is you guys weren't doing the things i needed help on anyway so there comes a point where it's hard to justify spending all my time there for nothing in return. I don't think it's a big deal to ask for something as simple as killing one NM in that case either. Not sure what else you would be referring to me asking for, especially outside the past month or so.

And yes, the fact that we never achieved 17 min runs in AV that night or even speed runs for that matter makes that person a noob along with the other half of the pt who was sucking (this wasn't even with AK, if that's what you were thinking). I've taken part in those runs, it's not hard. There's more to it than just following someone. You have to know what's coming and adapt to everyone else i.e. at least been there before and been successful to see how your role plays out in the big picture. When your "follow, avoid acid pits and aoe spam when needed" gets you those runs, get back to me.

And shell hoppers? How dare you accuse me of that. From the moment i joined AK it was never my "main" LS nor was it ever asked to be, especially considering i already had an "endgame" shell at the time. It's always been a social shell for me regardless of how you view the type of LS it is yourself. I also find it funny how Kya actually is one of the biggest shell hoppers i know, and yet she holds or at least held (not sure lately) a sack in AK and everyone loves her. She even calls it a social LS herself, yet i see no one lashing out at that. I guess that's because she's one of those ppl with no job that stays up til 5am with you guys and shows/tells you what you want to see/hear, which apparently is what you percieve as a "good member".

Maybe you'll be pleased to know that i have no LS anymore. Gee, i'm such a huge shell hopper, right? Maybe if you played the game with any sincerety (oh wait, that's not "playing" to you) you would actually be able to make these accusations of yours with any basis of truth.