Good time to buy stock in Square-Enix?

[TimonLoon]

NIKKEI225 taking a hit this Friday morning. SE on the decline along with a lot of other game company stocks. lol

Hopefully it picks back up after lunch.

[Yucie]

Oh yeah? Where's your proof that versus is still in production, OTHER than wada's word "s-sure guys...it's s-s-still in production t-trust me guys!"
Absolutely no new info in several years = game will never come out.

First and foremost, you're an imbecile.

Secondly, that's the only thing we know is going by what Wada said - that Versus is still in production and they have no other news at this time.
I'd rather see a true DLC that actually wraps up the ending of FFXIII-2, than Versus XIII.

So, yeah, you don't have proof other than the CEO's words. umad, bro?

[Jynx]

The summary of this persons posts.

[SuzakuCMX]

Here, let's list some game franchises that Square Enix has....

-Final Fantasy. Did you know that FFXIII sold 6.7 million copies as of last month, and was the fastest selling game in the series' history? FFXIII-2 sold 2.5 million copies as of last month. Final Fantasy XI also still has a fairly large playerbase, so it's definitely paying the bills.
-Dragon Quest. Dragon Quest IX set records for sales in Japan, selling over 4 million copies in Japan alone by March 2010. Dragon Quest X was released in Japan today/yesterday and is an MMO on the Wii. We'll see what the sales/subscription numbers are.
-Deus Ex. Human Revolution sold 2.18 million copies as of September last year.
-Kingdom Hearts. Kingdom Hearts 3D sold 300,000 units in Japan as of May this year, and was just released in America a few days ago. We'll see sales numbers.
-Just Cause is co-developed with Square Enix and is published by Eidos (which now belongs to Square Enix)
-Tomb Raider (recent acquisition)
-Kane & Lynch (from IO Interactive, which is owned by Square Enix)
-Hitman (acquisition from IO Interactive > Eidos > Now Square Enix)
-Legacy of Kain
-Wakfu for NA
-Thief

So on top of all the game series they have, they now have.....Final Fantasy XI, Final Fantasy XIV, Dragon Quest X, and Wakfu.....4 MMORPGs to make money off of. Sounds like they'll be doing just fine.

[Mudd]

Hardware sales are what matters, since they make a profit on every DS/3DS/Wii sold.
Better than Sony and their nogames PSVita/PS3.

The things you say.. . Its like I can tell exactly what part of the internet you come from ;v

[Roaran]

The price of a stock reflects a few things, but one thing it rarely ever represents is the actual value of the company. When a stock fluctuates dramatically, either rising or falling, it signals a shift in peoples' expectations.

Right now expectations are very low. If you were to invest now, and 2.0 turned out to be a hit, the actual value of the company will rise, but the stocks might not rise in proportion. You should only invest in a company as a long term commitment. Forget 2.0 for a moment, and unless you can justify investing in Square Enix for some other reason... I'd suggest not doing so.

[Risae]

YEAH, I LIKE FINAL FANTASY 14 GAMEPLAY TOO! YEAH NICE NM! DAMN THIS GRAPHICS GOOD! I LOVE TO TALK ABOUT FFXIV THE VIDEOGAME!

[Seif]

It's fun to be in denial land, isn't it?
SE killed FFversus.
They keep milking the FFXIII series instead of making a new one.
SE canceled FFXIII-3.
FFXIV got 4.0 out of 10.
They are bleeding money. I wouldn't be surprised if they got bought by another big gaming company, like Nintendo.
That would actually save Square Enix.

Ahem. You might want to take that time warp back to this month or/and read some news.

[Kiote]

That's not true, if 2.0 fails you will see another huge loss in the companies earning forecasts(just like in 2010) which effects stock value. That was the point I was trying to make.

It's worth pointing out that contrary to your opinion, the company is loosing money, you can read about it here: http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/...ions-imminent/

Also, don't go around calling people foolish. It's rude, unnecessary, and even more frustrating when you're dead wrong about the point you were trying to sound so cool making. Also personally attacking people is against the ToS, and most importantly if I'm not allowed to do it I most definitely don't want someone like you to get away with it.

First of all, I didn't personally attack anyone. Calling the general attitude of people foolish is not against the ToS. Secondly, you should learn to vet your sources. Do you honestly believe it is in anyway reasonable that a company as big as SE would be expecting a meager 12 million dollar profit? That's absurd, most companies make that off a single game. Even more ridiculous, do you actually think a company expecting a meager 12 million dollar profit can take a 150 million dollar loss and not fold? You very clearly do not know what your talking about and you should probably do more than type in google if you want to know the truth about something.

[Onisake]

SE stock will continue to drop as their recent games have met with a negative response, and failures such as XIV have reduced consumer confidence.

Even if XIV 2.0 is perfect it is nearly impossible to re-market a failed game, and all the people on here who claim spamming advertisements will work have no real marketing experience. 2.0 will not be SE's saving grace.

SE's stock will rise again if the next final fantasy (15? versus?) is a massive success. If not, they will probably fall drastically.

There are a lot of -MUCH- safer stocks out there.

That being said, SE probably won't die as they can make millions off KH3, FFVII-HD/3D, FF15

If you want to invest in a winner, try ZeniMax Media if they ever go public (owns Bethesda). Their new Elder Scrolls MMO will almost for sure be one of the most successful mmo's on the market and will probably make ff look like a joke. Even the screenshots of it and concept art look years ahead of XIV. Plus they will have 3-way massive PvP battles and let you explore all of skyrim, morrowing, tamriel, and a bunch of other places. So its like every elder scrolls in one in a multiplayer arena.
And slated for release 2013.

Pretty much this.

SE's development as been pretty lackluster for the last several years. not everyone liked FFX. a lot of people did not like FFXII or FFXIII and FFXIV flopped as well. of course i'm not sure how these games did in Japan. I'm also not sure how much cash the mobile market brings in for them or their retail stores.

Eidos is bring in a lot of cash for the company, sure. but as a whole there are a few things in the pipeline and not a lot of hype, as usual.

However it is implied that SE has enough cash to throw around to keep FFXIV alive. so either the subs are enough to keep it afloat or their pockets are deeper than implied.