Good time to buy stock in Square-Enix?

[Yucie]

It's fun to be in denial land, isn't it?
SE killed FFversus.
They keep milking the FFXIII series instead of making a new one.
SE canceled FFXIII-3.
FFXIV got 4.0 out of 10.
They are bleeding money. I wouldn't be surprised if they got bought by another big gaming company, like Nintendo.
That would actually save Square Enix.

SE isn't dying rofl.

>Versus is still in production.
>They just showed Agni's Philosophy at E3, which looks INCREDIBLE, especially if it turns out to be more than a tech demo.
>FFXIII-3 doesn't exist..? And they made FFXIII-2 for the fans of FNC, which I am among.
>FFXIV is getting relaunch as a completely new game.

Your arguments are silly and baseless lol.

[NefarioCall]

It's always a gamble! When Ford stock dropped to almost nothing I pulled all the money from my 401k and invested it all, and walked away with huge gains, but I do not see that situation here. You are more likely to lose and if you come out ahead it will be modest. I like what I am seeing about 2.0, but I just don't know if I am willing to wager on it's success.

..and SE will never be that kind of stock. Just the same way that a steel manufacturing company that makes the car parts will never be the car company itself. They're completely different. So ... no ... this isn't a golden opportunity like those... but i have a hard time finding any reason to think that the stock value will drop further than it has ... and then, even if 2.0 isn't a wild success, SE is the kind of company stable enough that over 5 years, it should be able to pick up the pieces.

That's not true, if 2.0 fails you will see another huge loss in the companies earning forecasts(just like in 2010) which effects stock value. That was the point I was trying to make.

While a quality product does not always lead to success, it is an important factor. I suppose you could always 'wait it out' and see what the general reaction to Beta is through the end of 2012. I mean, if SE isn't going to fold, they also aren't going to make the full gains they could make back by the end of this calendar year. You might end up being able to buy lower into a company that will still come back, or you end up buying a little higher and making a smaller profit margin when you sell.

[Altanas]

/confused over how to buy stock (based in uk)

/noob

[Lstkaws]

..and SE will never be that kind of stock. Just the same way that a steel manufacturing company that makes the car parts will never be the car company itself. They're completely different. So ... no ... this isn't a golden opportunity like those... but i have a hard time finding any reason to think that the stock value will drop further than it has ... and then, even if 2.0 isn't a wild success, SE is the kind of company stable enough that over 5 years, it should be able to pick up the pieces.



While a quality product does not always lead to success, it is an important factor. I suppose you could always 'wait it out' and see what the general reaction to Beta is through the end of 2012. I mean, if SE isn't going to fold, they also aren't going to make the full gains they could make back by the end of this calendar year. You might end up being able to buy lower into a company that will still come back, or you end up buying a little higher and making a smaller profit margin when you sell.

There is always a chance the stock could drop. If 2.0 fails they will have invested a lot of money and not be able to recoup. If Versus is not released it could also cause a drop. FF titles are the flagship for SE, if the FF titles take a hit so will the stocks. To put in perspective, consider the losses that would be caused by a FFXIV 2.0 complete failure. The costs of development and hardware alone would be significant. That being said SE could still rebound from such an incident. If you believe in it...then get some skin in the game.

Yes this is certainly not a situation like the auto companies, but I always respect someone who is willing to put there money where their mouth is.

[Neomarl]

SE isn't dying rofl.

>Versus is still in production.
>They just showed Agni's Philosophy at E3, which looks INCREDIBLE, especially if it turns out to be more than a tech demo.
>FFXIII-3 doesn't exist..? And they made FFXIII-2 for the fans of FNC, which I am among.
>FFXIV is getting relaunch as a completely new game.

Your arguments are silly and baseless lol.

Oh yeah? Where's your proof that versus is still in production, OTHER than wada's word "s-sure guys...it's s-s-still in production t-trust me guys!"
Absolutely no new info in several years = game will never come out.

[Valmonte]

It's fun to be in denial land, isn't it?
SE killed FFversus.
They keep milking the FFXIII series instead of making a new one.
SE canceled FFXIII-3.
FFXIV got 4.0 out of 10.
They are bleeding money. I wouldn't be surprised if they got bought by another big gaming company, like Nintendo.
That would actually save Square Enix.

It terms of Software Sales Nintendo is doing much worse

[Neomarl]

It terms of Software Sales Nintendo is doing much worse

Hardware sales are what matters, since they make a profit on every DS/3DS/Wii sold.
Better than Sony and their nogames PSVita/PS3.

[Valmonte]

Hardware sales are what matters, since they make a profit on every DS/3DS/Wii sold.
Better than Sony and their nogames PSVita/PS3.

....and how would square enix profit by being joined with Nintendo?

[Starlord]

Oh yeah? Where's your proof that versus is still in production, OTHER than wada's word "s-sure guys...it's s-s-still in production t-trust me guys!"
Absolutely no new info in several years = game will never come out.

Just because they are not talking about it doesn't mean it's shut down. And Wada came up front and said it wasn't cancelled. If they don;t wanna talk about it they don't have to.. it doesn't mean it's cancelled.

Saying FFXIII-3 got Cancelled when FFXIII-3 was never brought up by Square Enix at all. <---- this alone tells me Your not keeping up with things x.x.

Like I said.. They donlt have to say anything if they don't want to. They will when the time is right.

[charlemagne]

I think theres a bit of good news in the stock with the announcement that SE will be releasing software for the new OUYA console. FFIII will be available on it to start. Theres a lot of hype over OUYA and titles available at or close to its release should do well. I'd be still be wary of sinking money into any games company atm. Games sales overall aren't doing well though that may be down to the quality of recent releases rather than any economic factors. Have to think this is about the bottom end for SE though and I can't see any more downside with this stock, should be a safeish bet.