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  1. #71
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    Crysten's Avatar
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    Crysten Kimura
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Fantastic guide there, taken a fair bit of that into account when gearing myself up!

    I've realized that my Point Allotments are all over the place at the moment though - the majority of my points are currently in STR/MND at the moment with only a select few in DEX/VIT.

    What would be the best way to go when resetting points? Would it be better to stick with STR/MND or go for another combo entirely, say DEX/VIT?

    Any input would be awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

  2. #72
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    Molly_Millions's Avatar
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    Molly Millions
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Crysten View Post
    Fantastic guide there, taken a fair bit of that into account when gearing myself up!

    I've realized that my Point Allotments are all over the place at the moment though - the majority of my points are currently in STR/MND at the moment with only a select few in DEX/VIT.

    What would be the best way to go when resetting points? Would it be better to stick with STR/MND or go for another combo entirely, say DEX/VIT?

    Any input would be awesome!
    Dex isn't very important for PLD, you want STR/MND. STR first, because it has a greater effect on your attack power, generally.What you would get by adding DEX is ACC, just add an electrum ring +1 and an explorer's choker and you have enough ACC for any gear set.

    Personally, I'd go for HP over VIT. If you really NEED the def that comes from VIT, add DEF, it has a greater effect on your total DEF stat.
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    Last edited by Molly_Millions; 07-06-2012 at 08:27 PM.

  3. #73
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    Sasagawa's Avatar
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    Seriy Anaplian
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    Moogle
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
    Actually it's really easy to determine a mobs level for the dLvl calculations, just look at the xp you receive for defeating them.
    Thanks for pointing that out death.

    But I still believe a lvl 50 mob under the new developers is different from a lvl 50 mob under the old.

    Exp i also believe is calculated with a simple difference in level calculation so my original point still stands.

    the maths for old developers is different than the new developers content.
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  4. #74
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    Seriy Anaplian
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    Moogle
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Crysten I agree with molly

    Although I tend to go vit/mnd not str/mnd

    I tried piety for a while but it made little difference to magic damage taken so i swapped back

    but that's personal preference. I compensate with a str ring if I am suffering but have never needed too.

    generally a combination of str vit mnd will serve u well as well

    I am half tempted to split attributes more evenly between the stats.

    but i will wait for 2.0
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasagawa View Post
    Thanks for pointing that out death.

    But I still believe a lvl 50 mob under the new developers is different from a lvl 50 mob under the old.

    Exp i also believe is calculated with a simple difference in level calculation so my original point still stands.

    the maths for old developers is different than the new developers content.
    Your just plain wrong there is no different math formulas for old vs new. The spells a monster uses is one thing but the dmg formulas are consistent across all monsters. As someone who has studied/followed/tested thousands of kills. Wrote and authored a program to collect data for testing (my BG_parser that has over 10k downloads so far) not to mention the fact that I have a masters degree in mathematics and a BS in computer science I can assure you that you are just plain wrong.

    Now to be fair the dmg formulas for different parts of the equation have changed drastically I still remember the days when ATK was the supreme ruler stat and a mythril choker was BIS for ARC dmg raising your dmg by a few points max. Now I can swing my base ws #'s by 50 points with my tripple str gloves alone. Yes things have changed but I can assure you the formulas changed across the board their is no old/new everything is governed by the new/current rules.
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    Last edited by Tango; 07-06-2012 at 10:44 PM.
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  6. #76
    Player ejiboo's Avatar
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    Eji Boo
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    reposting from ffxivpro; this is what i use on my pld:

    main: garuda's gaze
    off: maelstrom shield

    head: +50mnd cobalt celata
    body: darklight cuirass or +50vit cobalt cuirass
    hands: +36str sentinel's gauntlets
    belt: +44enm sentinel's plate belt
    legs: +20str +22vit felt trousers
    feet: darklight solerets or +60meva cobalt sabatons

    black pearl earring+1
    explorer's choker
    1 of like 5 different bracelets
    mixture of stat+1 and electrum+1

    it's probably one of the best setups you can use unless you 2-3x evenflow on sent hands, 3x str/dex on sent hands (which i can't seem to make) or 3x str/dex a sword (although gaze will prolly spank it). in some cases it'd be wise to switch over to HDA replacing head/body, enmity accessories and maaaaaybe HDF.
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  7. #77
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    GreyJorildyn's Avatar
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    Grey Jorildyn
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    That is a well-rounded set for fighting trash mobs in raids for sure. Don't think it would quite make the cut trying to keep hate from a barrage of blms though. HDL gets that done much better for sure. Impressive and strong melds. Kudos.
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  8. #78
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    Seriy Anaplian
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    Moogle
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    Marauder Lv 50
    "As someone who has studied/followed/tested thousands of kills. Wrote and authored a program to collect data for testing (my BG_parser that has over 10k downloads so far) not to mention the fact that I have a masters degree in mathematics and a BS in computer science I can assure you that you are just plain wrong."

    All i am gonna say is thanks for information but was all that blurb really necessary.

    TBH i couldn't give a rats whether or not your parser has 10k downloads hell people downloaded the crazy frog tune (why i will never know)

    Anyways,

    you have your opinion based on calculations derived from non standardized testing with no valid thorough and repeatable methods explained just figures and numbers that for all I know could be plucked out of thin air or worse skewed to favor your current line of thought.

    and I have my opinions based on observations and gut feeling.

    point is

    they are both opinions and should be considered such !!
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  9. #79
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    Molly Millions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasagawa View Post
    "As someone who has studied/followed/tested thousands of kills. Wrote and authored a program to collect data for testing (my BG_parser that has over 10k downloads so far) not to mention the fact that I have a masters degree in mathematics and a BS in computer science I can assure you that you are just plain wrong."

    All i am gonna say is thanks for information but was all that blurb really necessary.

    TBH i couldn't give a rats whether or not your parser has 10k downloads hell people downloaded the crazy frog tune (why i will never know)

    Anyways,

    you have your opinion based on calculations derived from non standardized testing with no valid thorough and repeatable methods explained just figures and numbers that for all I know could be plucked out of thin air or worse skewed to favor your current line of thought.

    and I have my opinions based on observations and gut feeling.

    point is

    they are both opinions and should be considered such !!
    I can confirm his numbers are correct. I've verified most of them with my own parses. The results speak for themselves when you use his conclusions to gear your char.
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  10. #80
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    Madruk Darkrune
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ejiboo View Post
    reposting from ffxivpro; this is what i use on my pld:

    main: garuda's gaze
    off: maelstrom shield

    head: +50mnd cobalt celata
    body: darklight cuirass or +50vit cobalt cuirass
    hands: +36str sentinel's gauntlets
    belt: +44enm sentinel's plate belt
    legs: +20str +22vit felt trousers
    feet: darklight solerets or +60meva cobalt sabatons

    black pearl earring+1
    explorer's choker
    1 of like 5 different bracelets
    mixture of stat+1 and electrum+1

    it's probably one of the best setups you can use unless you 2-3x evenflow on sent hands, 3x str/dex on sent hands (which i can't seem to make) or 3x str/dex a sword (although gaze will prolly spank it). in some cases it'd be wise to switch over to HDA replacing head/body, enmity accessories and maaaaaybe HDF.
    Like the helm and belt. No clue about any of the other choices however haha. That a hybrid dps/magic resist set or something?
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