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  1. #311
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    Ryuko's Avatar
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    Ryuko Kanzeon
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    I would prefer if they kept the really skimpy outfits to underarmor slots. Then at least I can look cool while I'm changing jobs!

    But on a serious note, as a female, this armor does not offend me. It's a videogame. Of course there are going to be REALLY revealing outfits for both men and women alike. It's not like it has really good stats or anything. It's simply an aesthetic piece of gear that you can choose to wear if you'd like to. You're not being forced to wear it.

    I would agree that this is a problem IF...

    1. This was comparably one of the best pieces of armor in the game, thus forcing you to choose between wearing it or having worse stats.
    2. Most of the female armor was incredibly skimpy or 'objectifying'.

    This is not a good piece of armor, and most of the armor is tasteful. This is the only one that's really skimpy. I don't see this as being a trend in the future.
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  2. #312
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    Rannie Lfey
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    lol nice gramul very nice
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

  3. #313
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    Indra Spharai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomarl View Post
    For the dozens of you people saying that it's not a big deal because male characters can equip it also; you're wrong. It is not possible to be sexist against men.

    And before you think I'm not serious, I assure you I am. How often do you see men offended by other men in skimpy suits? Never.
    Now see how often we women get offended by such things, even in video games? Very often, and for good reason. Just look at "Tropes vs. Women" on Kickstarter. She got funded 158k $ because this is a real world problem that needs to stop.
    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...s/posts/242547

    And like it or not, there are a lot of us who support such things and won't accept the blatant misogynist characteristics in FFXIV and other video games.
    No, No and.. No.

    No #1: Sexism is about adopting a different standard between individuals based on their gender. Its not about who is offended or not. Both gender gets equally revealing gear ? Then i do not see any sexism in the sole appearance of the gear. Maybe you are refering to other people's behaviour around you ? Please calrify.

    No #2: A popular campaign, whatever the amount of money it has is not relevant to this case, nor can it establish facts about FFXIV.

    No #3: I would like you to point me where is the misoginy in FFXIV. I dont think you know what that word actually means, but i'll concede if you can provide clear cut, irrefutable examples of it.

    Keep in mind this is an MMORPG. As oposed to single player games with fixed character building, your character is a blank slate here. You are gonna give it personality and proper behaviour. The whole thing is just for laugh. A little wink with no hidden intentions for both sides. You dont like it, dont wear it.
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    Last edited by Maxwell; 07-30-2012 at 05:12 AM.

  4. #314
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    Rannie Lfey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxwell View Post
    No and.. No.

    No #1: Sexism is about adopting a different standard between individuals based on their gender. Its not about who is offended or not. Both gender gets equally revealing gear ? Then i do not see any sexism in the sole appearance of the gear. Maybe you are refering to other people's behaviour around you ? Please calrify.

    No #2: I would like you to point me where is the misoginy in FFXIV. I dont think you know what that word actually means, but i'll concede if you can provide clear cut, irrefutable examples of it.

    Keep in mind this is an MMORPG. As oposed to single player games, your character is a blank slate here. You are gonna give it personality and proper behaviour. The whole thing is just for laugh. On both sides. You dont like it, dont wear it.

    wow I didn't know that word even existed... nor know the definition myself thanks for the links I learned a new word today =) (there was no sarcasm in this post i actually meant it about that word)
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

  5. #315
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomarl View Post
    For the dozens of you people saying that it's not a big deal because male characters can equip it also; you're wrong. It is not possible to be sexist against men.
    You are, per definition, being sexist against men here.
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  6. #316
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    just like you can't be racist towards white people, amirite?
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  7. #317
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    You know not the meaning of thirst.


  8. #318
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    Cthulhu Theeldar
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    Yay, people spraying each other with water. It's wet tee-shirt contest time!!!


    Oh wait, that's sexist =(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    What is best in life?
    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes View Post
    To crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and hear the lamentations of their women.

  9. #319
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    Aster Seule
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomarl View Post
    If I don't get a swimsuit I'll flip my shit and complain until you give it to me, but give me an armor set, that's basically a re-skinned bikini with cloth tassels and I'll flip my shit about sexism, how men are all pigs wanting to look at pixellated prostitute equivalents and how evil SE is for giving me something I wanted in a different form.
    Long story short, Neomarl is one of those players that are unhappy no matter what SE gives them.
    *Bikinis aren't sexist but this armor set clearly is... LOLLOGIC*
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  10. #320
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    Gilraen Bior
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    I like all this talk about exploitative attire... yet the person primarily complaining about it is playing a miqo'te, the most exploitive of the races (I'm lumping mithra in on that, too). Female only (until 2.0), suggestive emotes, second skimpiest (yet most suggestive) underwear, least covering armor (this is mostly mithra)... and they're complaining about the sultriness of two sets of armor? I don't see anything hypocritical about that one bit.

    That said, the armor is rather tame compared to other new MMOs. Remember, most new MMOs also toss in such superfluous mechanics as breast physics and loosely flowing attire.
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