Quote Originally Posted by Riv View Post
It's a futile effort, espcially when the noobs can't be bothered to actually put any time or money into improving their character or listen/react to instructions. It's like they expect the content to fall over for them and give them the gear they need to actually win the content from the content itself. Not to mention that in the time it takes to "train" these idiots, Dalamud will have already crushed us all.

And i'm still amazed at how many people haven't (or hadn't b4 the GC quests forced some of them) even killed the open world NMs.
I guess you've had bad luck then. We've had great luck investing in them, albeit 1 of the 5 we've put effort in didn't show returns though. They're all 100% self sufficient too.