Curtana :(

[Alerith]

Curtana: Spiritbinding, any tricks at all?

Pay a LS to follow you around. Claim mobs and let them kill them. Obviously you have to stay outside the party, but it shouldn't take long this way.

[Brannigan]

Hi guys,

I got Curtana today and the MP proc seems to be 50% of your damage dealt on an auto attack. I haven't seen it on a weaponskill (and I doubt that it can proc on WS) and it's decently rare. Eyeballing it, the Spirits Within bonus is around 15% (maybe 10? I didn't test thoroughly at all).

Oh yeah he doesn't say shit about why he's giving you Holy Shield at the end.

[Quatre]

Nice! Thanks for the Info Brannigan~! Let us know if it procs on WS, and if you get some more info on spirits within

[KumaAkuma]

I did the spiritbinding in the room with the artifact pieces of the kobold mines. Lots of mobs that die fast, hardly any agro, unwanted guests usually die at the gate. (I used my War to get inside the room by just killing mobs one for one or evading)

[Tango]

I did the spiritbinding in the room with the artifact pieces of the kobold mines. Lots of mobs that die fast, hardly any agro, unwanted guests usually die at the gate. (I used my War to get inside the room by just killing mobs one for one or evading)

thanks for the info

[Zdenka]

str - 100 = (+80dmg per ws)
mnd - 69 = (+48dmg per ws)

After reading your post our tank tried to swap around his gear set to get more str.

He gained +74 STR, which should be +60 per WS right?

His Flat blade went from 15 (HDL gauntlet, VIT allocation) to 20-22 (STR gloves, STR allocation).

Something is wrong with that formula, or it doesn't account for the defenses of such mobs as Chimera but he gained roughly 6 damage, not 60 unless Chimera has an inherent -90% physical damage taken. BRD also does really really pitiful damage on him too, and raising to stat caps doesn't help some WS's at all such as Gloom arrow it seems.

edit--
Tank tried one more time at +124 STR and flat blades still in 20-24 range.

He said spirits rose a lot, however, just not Flat Blade.

[Tman]

A Dev posted a bit ago about them redoing the calculation for fast>flat (I'm assuming your tank is combo'ing it) and MND seems to affect it more than STR, that's not to say STR won't affect it as I'm unsure, but the post stated MND modifies it (more?). I'd look for the post but I'm feeling lazy lol.

[Quatre]

In random news, 0/14. Decided to give up on melding and just save up 50mil to buy it. Anyone else have other awesome records at the double meld?

[Aratharn]

Personally I went 1/9 on the sword.

LS mate went 1/21 on the BLM staff though, ouch.

[PiedPiper]

Also, consider the fact that there is only one fight (Princess) where you need an off tank and I wouldn't be surprised if pug or lnc could tank the add.

Just as a side note... you don't actually NEED an off tank for Princess. We run PLD WHM BLM DRGx5 (sometimes one MNK) on the princess fight and I (the PLD) have no problem surviving without using Hallowed (I don't have it up anyway since i go WAR for the first rooms). To be clear: I tank both the Princess and the Marshal. And I'm not super built for def/vit either, only 710 and 305 (numbers before protect). I just use DV then Sent once marshal is on me, boon after sent, and... princess is dead. Granted this probably only works in groups with very good DD's, as the longer I stand there the more time I'd spend "naked" without cool downs and probably get eaten.

As to the larger topic of the thread. Dude. Accuracy. Its awesome. Cry more. I rock 182 enmity, and honestly, Curtana will more than make up for the 30 I'd lose in the switch (Garuda/Thoromen's) in just the damage, dps, and spirits boost alone, much less the mp and accuracy.

After reading your post our tank tried to swap around his gear set to get more str.

He gained +74 STR, which should be +60 per WS right?

His Flat blade went from 15 (HDL gauntlet, VIT allocation) to 20-22 (STR gloves, STR allocation).

Something is wrong with that formula, or it doesn't account for the defenses of such mobs as Chimera but he gained roughly 6 damage, not 60 unless Chimera has an inherent -90% physical damage taken. BRD also does really really pitiful damage on him too, and raising to stat caps doesn't help some WS's at all such as Gloom arrow it seems.

edit--
Tank tried one more time at +124 STR and flat blades still in 20-24 range.

He said spirits rose a lot, however, just not Flat Blade.

I would really like to see this addressed by the "wear more str/mnd as PLD" camp, because I've had similar experiences boosting my str from a dismal 229 to 310. As someone else mentioned, I was told that MND pumps Spirits and enmity combo, so I actually maintain 304 Mind and suspect the tank mentioned here has a similar amount (just considering that pieces like HDL gloves and Militia hat give mnd). I'm not saying I don't believe in "DD PLD" i'm just not... entirely sold on the numbers?