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  1. #141
    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    I never argued story based content should not require work. I'm arguing for this game WHICH WILL NOT EXIST IN A FEW MONTHS, the story content should be easy to give -all current players- a chance at experiencing it.

    Fights of this difficulty should be saved for 2.0.

    My main concern for casuals is that this fight requires a lot of practice, and if every time you get a party for the fight you have new ppl, you need to spend 1-2 hours practicing it before they figure out where to stand and what to do, very few ppl will complete it

    So it makes it really hard for anyone without a serious ls to complete.
    I'm a casual and I completed it with a pickup group.

    You're making it out to be some outrageously difficult fight, which it is not. The difficulty is of an acceptable level, and honestly, you're gonna do more harm with your bitter complaints than the fight itself will ever do.
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  2. #142
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    Meow_Zedong's Avatar
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    Meow Zedong
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    We still have a couple months before the servers are shut down. If you can't beat this relatively easy battle before then, you might have more luck in a different game. I hear there's a Hello Kitty MMO availabe.
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  3. #143
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    AsterBarnivere's Avatar
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    Aster Seule
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    Mateus
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    The battle is rather easy, it's only as hard as you make it out to be.

    Phase 1 (Piss easy)

    Phase 2 (Phase 1 with a slight damage adjustment and an added move)

    Learn to read your opponents and anything is possible to beat.

    Hello Kitty and TERA Online might be the games for you if you're complaining about DIFFICULTY IN A FF TITLE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    A lot of friends who are casuals came back to complete the storyline. After dealing with spending 10-30min just trying to enter a fight and wiping 10+ times to AOEs most have just left again. A couple have basically said they don't even want to try 2.0 because it will just be the same problems with a new world.
    Typical problems that you'll face in ALL MMORPGS... yea, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
    Lord Legatus Nael Van Darnus says: "Pathetic."
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    Last edited by AsterBarnivere; 07-27-2012 at 07:03 AM.

  4. #144
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    Hyrist's Avatar
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    Lin Celistine
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    Yucie don't bother.

    I could go on into comparisons of benefits of flaws of CoP very easily. But all of it is irrelevant to FFXIV.

    Blind fanboism of another game has no place in a discussion of the current one. The difficulty of To Kill a Raven is fine where it is.
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  5. #145
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    Hyrist's Avatar
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    Lin Celistine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    I never argued story based content should not require work. I'm arguing for this game WHICH WILL NOT EXIST IN A FEW MONTHS, the story content should be easy to give -all current players- a chance at experiencing it.

    Fights of this difficulty should be saved for 2.0.

    My main concern for casuals is that this fight requires a lot of practice, and if every time you get a party for the fight you have new ppl, you need to spend 1-2 hours practicing it before they figure out where to stand and what to do, very few ppl will complete it

    So it makes it really hard for anyone without a serious ls to complete.
    Known strategy is out, a pick-up group can get this fight accomplished if they are aware of it.

    Additional this fight has a very low gear requirement. All it takes is being aware of what you needed to do, which you were not aware, therefore you failed.

    Read the strategy, try again. It will be easy by comparison to your previous experience.
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  6. #146
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    Griss's Avatar
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    Griss Stilgar
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    Sargatanas
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    It took the group I did it with about five runs in total to get the fight mechanics down. by that time fatigue was getting the better of all of us so we picked it back up this afternoon and clocked a win after breaking in a couple new people.

    It is a damned fun and well balanced fight. The second phase is crazy, but i would not expect anything less. The battle team did one hell of a job with this fight. Hell As a blm in that fight its the best attempt I have seen in a mmo to recreate a game of missile command ever! I cant wait to get my head kicked in by the hard mode version. And I cant wait to see what the rest of this roller coaster ride has in store for us.
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    An Aware, Informed, and Critical community is vital for the success of a game.
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  7. #147
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    Azurymber's Avatar
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    Azury Ariella
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Known strategy is out, a pick-up group can get this fight accomplished if they are aware of it.

    Additional this fight has a very low gear requirement. All it takes is being aware of what you needed to do, which you were not aware, therefore you failed.

    Read the strategy, try again. It will be easy by comparison to your previous experience.
    ... look who started the strategy thread
    I was the first person to post parts of the strat
    >__>

    I'm not arguing about this for me. Im saying other ppl are having issues with it. To me the fight is easy, but i've watched so many blms miss meteors fight after fight after fight after fight.
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  8. #148
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    AsterBarnivere's Avatar
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    Aster Seule
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    ... look who started the strategy thread
    I was the first person to post parts of the strat
    >__>

    I'm not arguing about this for me. Im saying other ppl are having issues with it. To me the fight is easy, but i've watched so many blms miss meteors fight after fight after fight after fight.
    Posting a strategy thread mooching off of the info of others =/= you finding out the strategy.
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  9. #149
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    Avara Kettu
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    Miner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Meow_Zedong View Post
    We still have a couple months before the servers are shut down. If you can't beat this relatively easy battle before then, you might have more luck in a different game. I hear there's a Hello Kitty MMO availabe.
    Is there really?! *Runs and downloads it* :3 nah I like this MMO the way it is. The hard fights are the fun ones.
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  10. #150
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    Hyrist's Avatar
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    Lin Celistine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    I'm not arguing about this for me. Im saying other ppl are having issues with it. To me the fight is easy, but i've watched so many blms miss meteors fight after fight after fight after fight.
    Then I will tell you this plain.

    You're wasting your energy.

    You'll get little to no sympathy here and your time is better spent trying to convince your friends to buckle down, follow the guild and win this event before it is gone forever.

    Every moment you spend here is time you can spend preparing for your next run -whether it's watching videos of successful/failed runs, looking up tactics, and asking pointed questions for each job so you have something personal to tell each of your friends regardless of what they come on.
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