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  1. #161
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    dbrewer225's Avatar
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    Macus Blakkstarr
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    if you cant find people to do 17 mins speed runs then yes that will break your motivation to do relic. im on the 17 min av speed run for my relic but cant find people to do it with. what SE should have done was yes 17 min speed run 100% drop for the relic material. at 25 mins give at least a 25% drop rate.
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  2. #162
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    DeadRiser's Avatar
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimzon View Post
    The only reason you aren't doing relic is you can't be bothered to take a few hours out of your time to 17min SR AV&CC a couple times? Really?
    No, I don't even bother with speed runs. I don't do them anymore with the dungeons, and I won't do them again with the Relics. When SE can actually make content that doesn't require you to stack the sh*t out of one class/job, I'll do it.

    I'm not in an endgame linkshell aside from my social one, and a lot of stuff I do is pick up groups. The majority of endgame linkshells don't even let people into them anymore, and I'm not going to join one just to complete content... I never see a shout for 17 min speed run and that's where A LOT of people get sh*tted on for relics. It's pretty much a stopping point for everyone.

    EDIT: Pretty much what dbrewer225 said. But no, SE requires you do the 17 min speed run or you have a 1/100 drop rate on the item you need.... Um, no.
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  3. #163
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    Ashenspire Desdimarnia
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    No, I don't even bother with speed runs. I don't do them anymore with the dungeons, and I won't do them again with the Relics. When SE can actually make content that doesn't require you to stack the sh*t out of one class/job, I'll do it.

    I'm not in an endgame linkshell aside from my social one, and a lot of stuff I do is pick up groups. The majority of endgame linkshells don't even let people into them anymore, and I'm not going to join one just to complete content... I never see a shout for 17 min speed run and that's where A LOT of people get sh*tted on for relics. It's pretty much a stopping point for everyone.

    EDIT: Pretty much what dbrewer225 said. But no, SE requires you do the 17 min speed run or you have a 1/100 drop rate on the item you need.... Um, no.
    "This game is hard and I don't think it's fair and I'm going to pull every excuse out of my ass that I can so I don't sound like a failure."
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  4. #164
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    Almalexia's Avatar
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    The part that Irks me is that Paladin requires a double meld of Hells Eye IV, while some other Jobs relic requires Mind IV, which is just plain imbalanced.
    How? PLD gets ACC on their relic; WHM gets MND on theirs. This isn't a bait-and-switch. Your relic is everything you meld plus more.

    How about a trade? MNK can have that "imbalanced" 40ACC, and PLD can have this super-duper-fair-and-balanced 70MP.
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  5. #165
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    woah ash, dead is not complaining but i do see where she is coming from. i had an opportunity to join a linkshell but due to work schedule i wasnt able to join on the weekdays but weekends im good to go. are you gonna tell me that im complaining also. nope not all. but when your at a point to where you cant advance further on the objective because a lack of people then yes it is a motivation killer. but im not gonna give up ill keep searching for people to these runs. like i said im on the 17 min av run myself and finding people to do it with is harder than the relic quest itself.
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  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashenspire View Post
    "This game is hard and I don't think it's fair and I'm going to pull every excuse out of my ass that I can so I don't sound like a failure."
    Excuse me? Let's make the assumption that I'm a "bad player" because I don't like the route SE is taking with content and running through everything and calling it "hard". I hate that I have to bring this up everytime someones starts crap like what you said. I'm a full time college student with a part time job... do you think I have the time to join an endgame linkshell to complete stuff? Come on dude, how thick can you get? Oh wait, I'm talking about the XIV community. They don't even think before they type, they just reply with something to get a couple of quick likes and sound like a total douche.
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  7. #167
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    EVRYBODY CALM DOWN BEFORE I GET MY BELT
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  8. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbrewer225 View Post
    EVRYBODY CALM DOWN BEFORE I GET MY BELT
    I just can't stand when people make the assumption that I'm a pathetic whiner lol. Sometimes I can't stand this community...
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  9. #169
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    How? PLD gets ACC on their relic; WHM gets MND on theirs. This isn't a bait-and-switch. Your relic is everything you meld plus more.

    How about a trade? MNK can have that "imbalanced" 40ACC, and PLD can have this super-duper-fair-and-balanced 70MP.
    I suppose it is imbalanced in multiple ways then. AF/Relic weapons were done wrong. I would prefer to have the enmity of warriors weapon on my paladin weapon over accuracy myself.
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    Last edited by Reika; 07-26-2012 at 08:28 AM.

  10. #170
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    Ashenspire Desdimarnia
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    I just can't stand when people make the assumption that I'm a pathetic whiner lol. Sometimes I can't stand this community...
    No one likes speed runs. No one likes dismal drops rates. But it's the name of the game, at the moment, even if it's a horrible name. To say you "don't have the time for it" makes you sound like a pathetic whiner. Not having the patience for it would be more appropriate.
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