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    The part that Irks me is that Paladin requires a double meld of Hells Eye IV, while some other Jobs relic requires Mind IV, which is just plain imbalanced. One is super rare and expensive materia, other is materia I have plenty of since it is common. "Relics aren't for everyone" Doesn't even pertain to this problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    The part that Irks me is that Paladin requires a double meld of Hells Eye IV, while some other Jobs relic requires Mind IV, which is just plain imbalanced. One is super rare and expensive materia, other is materia I have plenty of since it is common. "Relics aren't for everyone" Doesn't even pertain to this problem.
    If you're trying to 2x meld Hell's Eye IV onto PLD weapon, I think you might have larger issues tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimzon View Post
    If you're trying to 2x meld Hell's Eye IV onto PLD weapon, I think you might have larger issues tbh.
    Heavens Eye, my bad >.> Point still stands. The relic quest would be just fine without the double meld portion. It would still be long as hell, and it would still have a lot of RNG involved. Double Meld part is just stupid.
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    Last edited by Reika; 07-26-2012 at 07:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    The part that Irks me is that Paladin requires a double meld of Hells Eye IV, while some other Jobs relic requires Mind IV, which is just plain imbalanced.
    How? PLD gets ACC on their relic; WHM gets MND on theirs. This isn't a bait-and-switch. Your relic is everything you meld plus more.

    How about a trade? MNK can have that "imbalanced" 40ACC, and PLD can have this super-duper-fair-and-balanced 70MP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    How? PLD gets ACC on their relic; WHM gets MND on theirs. This isn't a bait-and-switch. Your relic is everything you meld plus more.

    How about a trade? MNK can have that "imbalanced" 40ACC, and PLD can have this super-duper-fair-and-balanced 70MP.
    I suppose it is imbalanced in multiple ways then. AF/Relic weapons were done wrong. I would prefer to have the enmity of warriors weapon on my paladin weapon over accuracy myself.
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    Last edited by Reika; 07-26-2012 at 08:28 AM.

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    Speed runs. I'm sick of them. They are the most boring way to make content "hard" by pretty much requiring you to stack a specific class/job. Don't say people have done it before with a full job run, that happened like once?

    Ifrit Extreme was an AWESOME way to provide hard content to getting a relic. This speed run bullsh*t has got to go and I'm sure PLENTY of people will agree with me.

    At least with the rest of the quest you can show some type of work towards it. Double melded weapons you can buy even though it's luck, and some of them are going cheaper. I was mad at that, but as prices drop, it's not so bad.

    Square Enix, please listen to your community and be done with stupid speed runs. It's the only reason I'm not doing the Relic quest.

    /endrant
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Speed runs. I'm sick of them. They are the most boring way to make content "hard" by pretty much requiring you to stack a specific class/job. Don't say people have done it before with a full job run, that happened like once?

    Ifrit Extreme was an AWESOME way to provide hard content to getting a relic. This speed run bullsh*t has got to go and I'm sure PLENTY of people will agree with me.

    At least with the rest of the quest you can show some type of work towards it. Double melded weapons you can buy even though it's luck, and some of them are going cheaper. I was mad at that, but as prices drop, it's not so bad.

    Square Enix, please listen to your community and be done with stupid speed runs. It's the only reason I'm not doing the Relic quest.

    /endrant
    The only reason you aren't doing relic is you can't be bothered to take a few hours out of your time to 17min SR AV&CC a couple times? Really?
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    if you cant find people to do 17 mins speed runs then yes that will break your motivation to do relic. im on the 17 min av speed run for my relic but cant find people to do it with. what SE should have done was yes 17 min speed run 100% drop for the relic material. at 25 mins give at least a 25% drop rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimzon View Post
    The only reason you aren't doing relic is you can't be bothered to take a few hours out of your time to 17min SR AV&CC a couple times? Really?
    No, I don't even bother with speed runs. I don't do them anymore with the dungeons, and I won't do them again with the Relics. When SE can actually make content that doesn't require you to stack the sh*t out of one class/job, I'll do it.

    I'm not in an endgame linkshell aside from my social one, and a lot of stuff I do is pick up groups. The majority of endgame linkshells don't even let people into them anymore, and I'm not going to join one just to complete content... I never see a shout for 17 min speed run and that's where A LOT of people get sh*tted on for relics. It's pretty much a stopping point for everyone.

    EDIT: Pretty much what dbrewer225 said. But no, SE requires you do the 17 min speed run or you have a 1/100 drop rate on the item you need.... Um, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    No, I don't even bother with speed runs. I don't do them anymore with the dungeons, and I won't do them again with the Relics. When SE can actually make content that doesn't require you to stack the sh*t out of one class/job, I'll do it.

    I'm not in an endgame linkshell aside from my social one, and a lot of stuff I do is pick up groups. The majority of endgame linkshells don't even let people into them anymore, and I'm not going to join one just to complete content... I never see a shout for 17 min speed run and that's where A LOT of people get sh*tted on for relics. It's pretty much a stopping point for everyone.

    EDIT: Pretty much what dbrewer225 said. But no, SE requires you do the 17 min speed run or you have a 1/100 drop rate on the item you need.... Um, no.
    "This game is hard and I don't think it's fair and I'm going to pull every excuse out of my ass that I can so I don't sound like a failure."
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