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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Yep, I mean FFXIV is FFIII so it's perfectly ok to have a Crystal Tower. FFXIV is also FFVI so it's perfectly ok to add in exact replicas of Magitek they utilized. FFXIV is also FFVI that it's perfectly ok to have Typhoon floating around with no doubt Ultros soon to follow. FFXIV is also FFVII that we not only got Materia but we're also getting the Golden Saucer.

    ...Oh FFXIV isn't those games either o.O
    Your getting the FF14 version of those things. Its not like when you enter the crystal tower its gonna switch you over to pixels and spit an Nintendo controler at you from the Rom drive....

    Places/person/names etc from past FF games are great. In this thread you seem to be asking the entirety of "Maat" Down to the system, concept, aesthetic and mechanics.

    It seems quite disingenuous to say we'll have a Crystal tower...so they should port everything i enjoyed down to the nuts and bolts from FF11 to FF14 and use that to offhandedly disregard contrary opinions.

    My interpretation of what Yoshi-p said was that you have a Crystal tower, it will look and remind you of the past Crystal tower....but not a "Cut and Paste."

    I hardly belive they will place things in the game that have not only a story or backround not relevant to the lore of FF14. But an entirely unrelated one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viritess View Post
    Your getting the FF14 version of those things. Its not like when you enter the crystal tower its gonna switch you over to pixels and spit an Nintendo controler at you from the Rom drive....

    Places/person/names etc from past FF games are great. In this thread you seem to be asking the entirety of "Maat" Down to the system, concept, aesthetic and mechanics.

    It seems quite disingenuous to say we'll have a Crystal tower...so they should port everything i enjoyed down to the nuts and bolts from FF11 to FF14 and use that to offhandedly disregard contrary opinions.

    My interpretation of what Yoshi-p said was that you have a Crystal tower, it will look and remind you of the past Crystal tower....but not a "Cut and Paste."

    I hardly belive they will place things in the game that have not only a story or backround not relevant to the lore of FF14. But an entirely unrelated one.
    That's the thing though.. Magitek is Magitek, it originated in FFVI for all intents and purposes, it was military technology and very rarely does something like that traverse the FF multiverse, so why can Garleans harness (Gun)weapon, which was FFVIII and Magitek technology (FFVI) but you can't consider that copy/paste, but introducing a level cap quest will be copy and paste? When you mention maat, those who played FFXI know they're talking about a series of level cap quests, more specifically the final one back in the day (70 cap fight.) Those who never played XI, that's why you explain how it worked to give an idea.

    Crystal Tower is copy and paste, yoshida went on and on about how it's the tower from FFIII and instead of 'no save' it could be something like 'no return', which he was half joking about but it's literally the same mechanic in the sense that it's the same concept from FFIII just as the materia system in name and execution is from FFVII with the exception of learning skills from materia and the Magitek he wants to give players is the exact design from FFVI.

    There's nothing wrong with it, but it's quite the double standard that it's ok for them to use concepts, designs and even monsters from other FFs, but from their last successful FF MMO is a nono. I mean, we all seen the concept art, right? Typhoon is clearly a FFXIV original.

    So no it's not 'disingenuous' in that regard, it's the simple fact that it's obvious he's literally ripping things from FF games to put into XIV which yoshida himself stated will literally be a fan service game..the sad thing is, people will probably be ok with him using FFMQ material over XI just because it's the cool thing to hate on XI, even though XIV will probably come no where near as successful as XI did in it's prime.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evangelus View Post
    no FFXI-2 please ! No need maat ...
    Too bad, you're getting FFIII-2 because of the Crystal Tower using the logic of what turns a game into a '-2'..since you know, XIV takes place in the world of light/darkness and all...
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    Last edited by Elexia; 07-18-2012 at 05:21 PM.