you know what grinds my gears?

[Babydoll]

LOL I agree OP. Especially about the applications...hahaha they are worse then the acting jobs I apply for and more involved. It is hilarious. FFXIV end game is serious business!

But yeah...this is why I wish to do things with pick up groups. I don't have time for all that nonsense with the applications that are more involved then REAL LIFE jobs. Whenever my bf and I join LS...they always treat me like a queen and then they ignore him and force (or expect) him to level up jobs he has no interest in playing..all so the leader or the leaders buddies can play the particular job.

Annnnd this is why I almost have all crafts to 50, because I rather spend my time crafting then doing end game with that type of community. I know not everyone is like that..I have met some very nice people and been in very nice social LS. But as far as the end game stuff goes...no, just...no. It is embarrassing. I instantly get turned off when going to join a shell that does events only to see a more in depth application then one that I've applied for for something as involved as acting. What a joke :X

[Relic]

Power shifting down to 2nd gear @ 100mph.

[Ryans]

Since when was taking 5 minutes to fill out an application such a blood boiling experience? Any LS I've applied to in any MMO has asked a few basic questions such as knowledge of content and history with MMOs, nothing that is privileged information. I fail to see the problem with wanting to know this info before giving someone a trial run.

As for your attack against LSes in general, its complete bullshit. You don't go on a rant because someone turned you down, especially to people you don't know. Grow up and stop trying change a system that, at most, is a minor inconvenience to weed out people who aren't dedicated enough to spend said 5 minutes to apply.

P.S. Your whole article makes you come off as a whiny bitch with an inferiority complex and cover it up by blaming your rejection on the system. No individual is required to accommodate another if they do not so desire.

[Dhalmel]

Power shifting down to 2nd gear @ 100mph.

[darkstarpoet1]

i'm perfectly fine with shells that have applications. there's multiple different kinds of shells. there's also multiple different kinds of people that play the game. it's not your place to tell others they aren't playing the game right no more than it's their right to tell you that.

here's a few of the different shell types:

1. social shell -these are for anyone that wants to get in the shell for the most part. they take low level and high level players regardless of experience. these people are more worried about chatting and playing the game in a more relaxed environment. i am in a few of these and enjoy it for just talking. i do not do events with these types of shells because i prefer to do events with people i have a chance at winning content. that doesn't mean i am not willing to help them, but that it's not what i normally do events with.

2. social/endgame - these are more of a higher level player, but they are a little more reserved for who they invite. usually these do not have applications needed, but they only invite people they know, can play the jobs decently, and are not known as a pest on the server. these shells do end game and other types of content pretty regular and are quite friendly because it's mostly high level friends together in the shell.

3. endgame only - these shells are the ones that are very selective and have an application page. some use the dkp system and some go strictly by what you are playing in the party. these groups are dedicated hardcore players and only want to play with players that have the same mentality. i have been in these types of shells in every mmo i have been in because this is the mentality i have. i don't mind putting in an application and there's actually shells i'd like to get into on my sever because i have the same mentality as they do, but do to work schedules i can't make the strict event rules. i can't blame them for it either because i would be the same way towards them if i was the one as head of the shell.

the point is if you want to get into a strict endgame shell you need to expect them to be more strict with who they let in because they have higher goals of what they expect to accomplish over a social shell. if putting in an application for an endgame shell is something you don't want to do or be involved in then you don't fit that mentality and you should either start your own shell or find a group of people that have the same opinions as you do. they are playing the game the way they wish to play the game and nothing is wrong with that anymore than the way you want to play it. those shells just don't fit into what you want out of the game anymore than you don't fit what they want for members so it's best to just find a group that does fit what you want out of the game.

[Tricksy]

i'm perfectly fine with shells that have applications. there's multiple different kinds of shells. there's also multiple different kinds of people that play the game. it's not your place to tell others they aren't playing the game right no more than it's their right to tell you that.

here's a few of the different shell types:

1. social shell -these are for anyone that wants to get in the shell for the most part. they take low level and high level players regardless of experience. these people are more worried about chatting and playing the game in a more relaxed environment. i am in a few of these and enjoy it for just talking. i do not do events with these types of shells because i prefer to do events with people i have a chance at winning content. that doesn't mean i am not willing to help them, but that it's not what i normally do events with.

2. social/endgame - these are more of a higher level player, but they are a little more reserved for who they invite. usually these do not have applications needed, but they only invite people they know, can play the jobs decently, and are not known as a pest on the server. these shells do end game and other types of content pretty regular and are quite friendly because it's mostly high level friends together in the shell.

3. endgame only - these shells are he ones that are very selective and have an application page. some use the dkp system and some go strictly by what you are playing in the party. these groups are dedicated hardcore players and only want to play with players that have the same mentality. i have been in these types of shells in every mmo i have been in because this is the mentality i have. i don't mind putting in an application and there's actually shells i'd like to get into on my sever because i have the same mentality as they do, but do to work schedules i can't make the strict event rules. i can't blame them for it either because i would be the same way towards them if i was the one as head of the shell.

the point is if you want to get into a strict endgame shell you need to expect them to be more strict with who they let in because they have higher goals of what they expect to accomplish over a social shell. if putting in an application for an endgame shell is something you don't want to do or be involved in then you don't fit that mentality and you should either start your own shell or find a group of people that have the same opinions as you do. they are playing the game the way they wish to play the game and nothing is wrong with that anymore than the way you want to play it. those shells just don't fit into what you want out of the game anymore than you don't fit what they want for members so it's best to just find a group that does fit what you want out of the game.

You forgot cyber linkshells, and roleplay linkshells, and crafting linkshells, and miqote only linkshells :P

[darkstarpoet1]

You forgot cyber linkshells, and roleplay linkshells, and crafting linkshells, and miqote only linkshells :P

that's why i said a few types and not all the types :P. i was just saying that if one type of shell is not what they are after there's plenty of other options.

[Tricksy]

that's why i said a few types and not all the types :P. i was just saying that if one type of shell is not what they are after there's plenty of other options.

hehe i was just being a douche. Why do you have culinary skill at 50? Is there a purpose to that profession now? i would have sent u a pm, but i dont think these forums have that option

[Jynx]

"I only play this class and have no desire to level any other class/job"

I'm totally that guy, but then again I don't complain when someone doesn't let me in their club-house when I have my own stipulations.

I play with my friends and we win or fail together.

[Churchill]

Only thing I'll agree with is I find the whole application portion particularly contrived.