you know what grinds my gears?

[darkstarpoet1]

hehe i was just being a douche. Why do you have culinary skill at 50? Is there a purpose to that profession now? i would have sent u a pm, but i dont think these forums have that option

yeah i know you were being sarcastic. was just kidding in return as well.

as to why i have it showing my class as cul 50 is because cul was my last class to get to 50 so i changed it when i started grinding it and left it because it meant the end of the leveling process for me until the level cap increase. it's nothing meant as far as what i play most or anything, but just a reminder of my last class in the grind.

[YeaniNah]

Most linkshell dont want me cos i'm not addictive player so i don't mind i only play when i got nothing else to do.If im playing game and a friend call me to go hang out i quit my game and go hang out.

[yoshikwalla]

Cliques are a part of society and human culture. It is in our very nature to separate ourselves into groups, based on skill, power, religion, ideology, race, sexual orientation, political status, and social status.This very trait caused everything in our culture, good and bad. It let us organize ourselves into tribes, city-states, religion, cities, countries, and kingdoms, forming our society - all from our distribution of political and cultural groups and their respective hierarchies. On the other hand, it caused ethnocentrism. It led to war and prejudice. It was behind the Holocaust, nuclear and biological weapondry, and every single war from the tribal fights of old to the warring we see today. It is a blessing and a curse.

You can cry about it all you want. Please, use this forum as a way to express your anger - an anger that everyone has in their very heart and soul. Even I cringe at the way our country argues with itself, democrat with republican. I think every day will be closer to another Civil War. It's devastating. Express your tears, anger, and frustration about being put into a group that you do not wish to be put into, because that is society pulling you down. Cry and rage all you like.

Just don't expect us to take your nerdrage without trolling the ever-living crud out of you.

*drinks tea*

[Viritess]

I filled an application that was more centered in "how" i was as a person, then my gaming history. What i do and how i am, and how i would react or settle certain situations. Plus some funny stuff that gave me a chance to make a joke about.

It was a nice app to fill out, and i begrudge no group for choosing a form or criteria for inclusion. Having the application asking about me, instead of How many games have you played, whats your gear gave the LS a positive light in my eyes, cause that meant, to me, that they we're more interested in finding people they could befriend, then just a "?" with good gear.

With any group that works well enough together, good gear and experience can be recived. Its much harder to make some jerk not a jerk anymore.

Directly to the OP, your Abortion comment was way out of line, and such baseless hatred to a thread response is in the poorest taste. A forum is where you solicit responses from others, not where they bow to your whims. If you want people to bow before your wishes no questions asked, then keep your "thoughts" in your head and daydream about it.

Not everyone is or wants to be your clone or conform to your ideals.

[Riv]

Didn't read whole thread, but to OP: Any EG shell worth joining should pretty much be your work, when you're not at work. So no, i don't see a problem with the whole application thing.

I will agree with you on your exclusion thing, though. Leaders like to play favorites to get their gear first, etc.

[DeadRiser]

Like I said in another thread...

Content does not need to be completed with JUST Linkshells.. it seems that that is the only way things are done. Excluding Ifrit but even then, you are denied if you do not have or want to play the class/job they want you to play as...

[Anapingofness]

Didn't read whole thread, but to OP: Any EG shell worth joining should pretty much be your work, when you're not at work. So no, i don't see a problem with the whole application thing.

I will agree with you on your exclusion thing, though. Leaders like to play favorites to get their gear first, etc.

A video game should not be a work away from work. It defeats the purpose of a video game.

And while I do understand the purpose of end game shells and their recruitment policies, I can't help but commiserate with the OP- especially when it comes to the elitism, the cliques and the favoritism. Some end game shells really make it impossible for a newbie to join.

To the OP, I'm sorry you're experiencing those frustrations. I wish I had an answer for you. The only thing that I can say is that please remember that not all end game shells are like that and I hope you find a good one on your server.

As far as social shell's are concerned, they have no business being exclusive in that manner. The whole point of a social shell is that everyone can join and get help with the things they want to do.

[darkstarpoet1]

A video game should not be a work away from work. It defeats the purpose of a video game.

that depends on your reason for playing the game in the first place. i have friends that play a game for fun, but i also have friends that play a game and are very organized and just want to compete for first to do something. people play games for different reasons. i play fps games as well and i know people that play them for fun(like me) and i know people that play them and actually get into competitions for them.

some play it a few hours a week and some play the game all day everyday. it's up to the individual person as to why they play the game. it's not my right to tell people that the way they enjoy a game is the wrong way to play it. if i don't agree with their play style or mentality i just find a group that fits.

the point is if your views of the game and reason for playing it does not fit what a group is looking for then you should be looking for a group that plays the game for the same reasons as you do.

[Anapingofness]

that depends on your reason for playing the game in the first place. i have friends that play a game for fun, but i also have friends that play a game and are very organized and just want to compete for first to do something. people play games for different reasons. i play fps games as well and i know people that play them for fun(like me) and i know people that play them and actually get into competitions for them.

some play it a few hours a week and some play the game all day everyday. it's up to the individual person as to why they play the game. it's not my right to tell people that the way they enjoy a game is the wrong way to play it. if i don't agree with their play style or mentality i just find a group that fits.

the point is if your views of the game and reason for playing it does not fit what a group is looking for then you should be looking for a group that plays the game for the same reasons as you do.

I accept your argument as I did not consider the people who enter tournaments with video games, for example, but I still stand by my statement. I can't speak for those people but to me, that is simply not work. At that point, it becomes a passion much like professional athlete or artist. Work, is not a good word to describe what they do. At least that is the way I feel about it.

Also, you seem to misunderstand.

I have no problem with players who share different views than me. I also have no problem with players who have a different play style than me. In all honesty, I believe in the notion of free will. If the way someone players brings them joy then more power to them.

The only time I begin to have frustrations with this is if I should ever feel cornered. That no matter what I do, I can't seem to get anywhere. I get frustrated with rude players. Honestly, talk to me. I'm sure we can find a middle ground.
Although, at that point I think anyone would feel frustration. Thankfully, I haven't run into too much of that.

As for my own play style, I don't think anyone needs to like it particularly. I just need people to respect that it is potentially a different play style than my own.

That is why I told the Op that not all end game shells are like what she has experienced. It takes time to find one she can feel comfortable in, but once she does, she will have formed some strong bonds with those people.

[darkstarpoet1]

I accept your argument as I did not consider the people who enter tournaments with video games, for example, but I still stand by my statement. I can't speak for those people but to me, that is simply not work. At that point, it becomes a passion much like professional athlete or artist. Work, is not a good word to describe what they do. At least that is the way I feel about it.

Also, you seem to misunderstand.

I have no problem with players who share different views than me. I also have no problem with players who have a different play style than me. In all honesty, I believe in the notion of free will. If the way someone players brings them joy then more power to them.

The only time I begin to have frustrations with this is if I should ever feel cornered. That no matter what I do, I can't seem to get anywhere. I get frustrated with rude players. Honestly, talk to me. I'm sure we can find a middle ground.
Although, at that point I think anyone would feel frustration. Thankfully, I haven't run into too much of that.

As for my own play style, I don't think anyone needs to like it particularly. I just need people to respect that it is potentially a different play style than my own.

That is why I told the Op that not all end game shells are like what she has experienced. It takes time to find one she can feel comfortable in, but once she does, she will have formed some strong bonds with those people.

oh i'm not saying you're wrong. all i was doing was pointing out is that different people have different ideas of fun.

what we consider the game being work may be fun to them. for example i don't consider parsing different gear sets and weapons to be fun trying to find out which combinations work the best, but i have a few good friends in game that will spend weeks on it and quite enjoy it. it would be a full time job to me, but it is enjoyable to them. which is wrong? neither

my only point is if you consider something work and a group of people consider it fun and expect people to play that way then that's just not the group you should be playing with. it will only cause drama in the long run because you will never convince them you are right and they will never convince you that you are wrong. you just look at something different than they do. there's absolutely nothing wrong with either point of view.

more than anything there are many different types of people in game and if people look hard enough they will be able to find people with similar views to them and be able to get things done. there's no need to join this super special end game shell if their play style does not match what you are looking for in the game.