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    Found something quoting the earlier post I mentioned, second post.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...athering-Stats


    Quote Originally Posted by Mihana View Post
    I'm still fairly convinced that there's something glitchy with the crafting stats in specific. Having higher stats/gear definitely helps without question yet it seems to rely on "chance" all too much with things.
    I really do agree and I also think that there are aspects to crafting that they don't exactly tell us. I really think there is crafting fatigue that reduces either your stats or success rate and quality increases on synth actions.
    My first craft of the day always goes miles better than my last even when the first is the same thing or even a harder synth. But that is just my experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    For someone who has one craft to 50, 2 below 40 and the rest under 20 and a NQ tool with a single meld. Yes it was good.
    Some people seriously need to learn not everyone has a lot of crafts leveled
    Then its not the HQ crafting system that sucks but you not having all the required skills, you cant expect to HQ everything with only one r50 craft, you should at least lvl carp to r45 for byregots blessing and perfection they will make it miles easier to HQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pompey_dan View Post
    Then its not the HQ crafting system that sucks but you not having all the required skills, you cant expect to HQ everything with only one r50 craft, you should at least lvl carp to r45 for byregots blessing and perfection they will make it miles easier to HQ.

    First off, anything based off of RNG sucks. If I work hard and get all of my crafts to 50, get triple melded everything for increased success rate and quality increases but I still get unlucky and a synth just decides to go south then there is nothing I can do about it. Personal skill, gear, abilities, all of those get thrown out the window with bad luck and there's nothing you can do about it. Hard work gets thrown away. Effort means nothing. Skill is worthless. Might as well of not used any abilities at all.
    Do you better understand what I'm talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StubHub View Post
    Sample size is the only relevant factor. Would you test accuracy, hit on two of six swings. Stopping at six swings. And then proceed to ask how to beat it?
    Yes, actually. But I wouldn't need to ask how to beat it. I'd just throw more acc on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    First off, anything based off of RNG sucks. If I work hard and get all of my crafts to 50, get triple melded everything for increased success rate and quality increases but I still get unlucky and a synth just decides to go south then there is nothing I can do about it. Personal skill, gear, abilities, all of those get thrown out the window with bad luck and there's nothing you can do about it. Hard work gets thrown away. Effort means nothing. Skill is worthless. Might as well of not used any abilities at all.
    Do you better understand what I'm talking about?
    First off, HQ Percentage isnt based on RNG, or you wouldnt get 100% at 100%. A given percentage is way different to a random number generator. You are expecting less than 100% to be 100%, which is Nonsense.
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    A bit luck is in everything
    I like to see percentages like a 100-sided dice. If you have a succes rate of 95% it would be:

    You hit 1 = success
    You hit 2 = success
    You hit 3 = success
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    You hit 93 = success
    You hit 94 = success
    You hit 95 = success
    You hit 96 = failure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    First off, HQ Percentage isnt based on RNG, or you wouldnt get 100% at 100%. A given percentage is way different to a random number generator. You are expecting less than 100% to be 100%, which is Nonsense.
    Anything having to do with a % is based off of RNG. 100% and 0% are the only exceptions to this. No one is saying otherwise.

    To go a little further, even success and fail of synth actions are RNG. Elemental instabilities are also RNG.

    While yes, the percentages influence the RNG, it's still an RNG based system with few exceptions. Saying there is 100% and 0% chance on HQ is not a valid argument to say that the HQ system is not based off of RNG.
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    You are comparing apples and oranges. Just both are fruits, doesnt mean its the same.
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    its simple just use the right abilities to HQ 100%
    my friend does this to almost any Class specific weapon you think its luck? no its not its skill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    You are comparing apples and oranges. Just both are fruits, doesnt mean its the same.
    No, I'm using the term like most of the FFXIV community does.
    And to be clearer, I'm not expecting 100% when it's not 100% I am frustrated that all my hard work can be for nothing at the will of the game for the sake of time syncs and I am voicing my frustration through this forum.

    I logged in today, I had to double down and failed on 2 more HQ synths at 90%+ and one more at around 80% all 3 back to back and logged out because it completely ruined my mood to play. Shit like this will make people quit and I'm very close to doing so because hard work should be rewarded appropriately in a video game meant for fun and it is not. It's all based on random luck and when you get in a rut with bad luck it stops being fun and just makes you angry and when a game makes people angry they tend to quit.

    And to be clear, I am not saying that they should remove everything that makes people upset. There is a large difference between this and failing at things that are your fault so this is far different from anything challenge based since it's completely out of your control.
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