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  1. #121
    Player Riv's Avatar
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    I tried 301.42, 301.34 and 304.79 and they all got the same DirectX error within 5 mins of running around Uldah. Ended up going back to 301.42. Then i turned off DoF (AO was already off) and turned General Draw up from 8 to 10. I haven't crashed at all since the change. So either the drivers are indeed screwed with handling DoF or like someone else said, the "Boost Clock" causes it to crash. Turning my General Draw up to 10 causes my GPU to stay near 99% utilization, and therefore keeping it at the highest clock speed so it never throttles down so i wonder if that is the real problem after all. I'll turn settings down later and see if i crash with lower clock speeds.

    I don't have silverlight installed.

    My UAC is set to not dim the desktop.

    Hardware cursor is turned on.

    tl;dr turning DoF off solved my problem.
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  2. #122
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    General Draw 10 prob slows your framerate ALOT... basically it tells FFXIV to render the game at double the horizontal and vertical resolution and then downscale it to your screen. Have you tried General Draw Quality= 9? Should still push the card but give you smoother gameplay.

    Also i have UAC disabled and play in windowed mode, so its not that causing the directx error. Its a known issue with the game it has trouble with reacquiring the device once it loses it (just poor programming nothing can fix this except the new 2.0 engine)

    And to the person who keeps bitching that nvidia isnt listening, the Nvidia forums were hacked. Thats why they have been down (investigating the breach). Nvidia does listen, and this problem is pretty much all Squares fault anyway. Even is the device gets lost more with the 600 series, any decently written game should be able to handle it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sajittarius View Post
    General Draw 10 prob slows your framerate ALOT... basically it tells FFXIV to render the game at double the horizontal and vertical resolution and then downscale it to your screen. Have you tried General Draw Quality= 9? Should still push the card but give you smoother gameplay.

    Also i have UAC disabled and play in windowed mode, so its not that causing the directx error. Its a known issue with the game it has trouble with reacquiring the device once it loses it (just poor programming nothing can fix this except the new 2.0 engine)

    And to the person who keeps bitching that nvidia isnt listening, the Nvidia forums were hacked. Thats why they have been down (investigating the breach). Nvidia does listen, and this problem is pretty much all Squares fault anyway. Even is the device gets lost more with the 600 series, any decently written game should be able to handle it.
    After a month we know it was hacked. Shame on nvidia. Should have said it before. I wonder how many people got fucked because they got emails and passwords from those forums. I hope they get sued. I'm sick and tired of these companies saving pennies on security and screwing us all the time. Same with Sony, Microsoft etc.
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  4. #124
    Player Riv's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sajittarius View Post
    General Draw 10 prob slows your framerate ALOT... basically it tells FFXIV to render the game at double the horizontal and vertical resolution and then downscale it to your screen. Have you tried General Draw Quality= 9? Should still push the card but give you smoother gameplay.

    Also i have UAC disabled and play in windowed mode, so its not that causing the directx error. Its a known issue with the game it has trouble with reacquiring the device once it loses it (just poor programming nothing can fix this except the new 2.0 engine)

    And to the person who keeps bitching that nvidia isnt listening, the Nvidia forums were hacked. Thats why they have been down (investigating the breach). Nvidia does listen, and this problem is pretty much all Squares fault anyway. Even is the device gets lost more with the 600 series, any decently written game should be able to handle it.
    Yeah i tested, it seems to be only DoF, maybe AO as well but i never used that. The clock speed changing doesn't make it crash. Nothing to do with which driver you use. Have not crashed once since turning DoF off.

    And yes, the game crashing over DirectX is SE's problem but what's causing it to do that is Nvidia's problem. It's not like i'm alt tabbing here, i'm not even in full screen mode. My old GTX460 and 560Ti never crashed due to this problem. So since it's only the 600 series, yeah it's Nvidia's problem.
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  5. #125
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    I ordered my GTX 680 for 2.0/A Realm Reborn. I was hopeing to replace my GTX 570 until then and record the CS of the Seventh Umbral Era. And you guys would of found a way to run the game without crashing by then.
    So should I just wait until then? And one more question, do the benchmarks still work with them?
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by KatoKinko View Post
    I ordered my GTX 680 for 2.0/A Realm Reborn. I was hopeing to replace my GTX 570 until then and record the CS of the Seventh Umbral Era. And you guys would of found a way to run the game without crashing by then.
    So should I just wait until then? And one more question, do the benchmarks still work with them?
    No. If you turn dof and AO on, it will crash. Other than that, it works great.
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  7. #127
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    It is important to address that GTX 460 is currently unplayable. It is weird that I played FFXIV for more than an year with no issues and stopped at the start of the paying cycle. I decided to reactivate my account three days ago and nothing works anymore. Already tried a lot of drivers, with or without AO and/or DoF and nothing. The support seens not to read my messages, they read only the subject field, the answers are ridiculous and I will canceal my account in the next days if the issue continues. Shame on you square, shame on you. You dealing with your loyal customers like trash. Very disappointed.
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  8. #128
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    If I might put my 2 cents in on this, it's SE's issue, I have an I7 3770k with a MSI GTX670 and get the crashes as well, but when i get it, it also locks up my intel chip monitoring system, I have noticed that both my gpu and cpu ramp up overload then no dx detected only in the bazaar areas, Both intercooled as well, niether ever above 35 C. Both also have self overclocking, which they both go to far at certain points, so it's not a gpu or driver issue, cause my CPU wouldn't be getting nuts, no biggy I just have to restart my monitoring back up. It's something with this engine and self clocking technology that's not meshing right. That's just my opinion I'm no tech.

    They're making a new engine because they can't easily make changes (according to SE) I think this includes this bug. Hopefully 2.0 will be better, but doubt this will get addressed before that
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redolentchewtoy View Post
    If I might put my 2 cents in on this, it's SE's issue, I have an I7 3770k with a MSI GTX670 and get the crashes as well, but when i get it, it also locks up my intel chip monitoring system, I have noticed that both my gpu and cpu ramp up overload then no dx detected only in the bazaar areas, Both intercooled as well, niether ever above 35 C. Both also have self overclocking, which they both go to far at certain points, so it's not a gpu or driver issue, cause my CPU wouldn't be getting nuts, no biggy I just have to restart my monitoring back up. It's something with this engine and self clocking technology that's not meshing right. That's just my opinion I'm no tech.
    Read here. You see the "No DX Detected" message because your display driver has encountered a fault and thus locks up forcing WDDM to perform a reset of the driver by forcing a restart of the driver.

    If you are using software that constantly increases the clock speed of the GPU or your VRAM past the officially posted clock speed, it will continue to increase the clock speed until it forces the driver to hang. You then experience a display driver reset and the loss of DirectX. If what ever you are using only "increases the clock when under heavy load" you need to make sure to remove or disable it. When it's under heavy load that is the time it's most likely to be negatively effected by overclocking.

    And everyone, please stop saying that because your GPU runs at a few centigrade above room temperature that it's not the problem. Your GPU runs exactly the same at 35C as it does at 95C.
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  10. #130
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    DoF definitely affects it because i crashed twice in a row yesterday leaving Uldah on my chocobo from the chocobo stables npc. The cutscene has DoF on by default (i've turned it cutscene effects but havent used choco npc since.)

    The other thing that still makes me crash even without DoF enabled is the mercantile house (any city). If i go in there and talk to my retainers with the bell i will crash about 50% of the time. I have to either call them from the adventurer's guild bell, or go directly into the market ward where they are to trade stuff.
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