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  1. #61
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    I call BS that you really enjoy the repairing system. I mean I guess I understand, there is nothing better then scrolling through your inv spending tons of time repairing your own gear, or sitting in town hunting down people to repair or waiting for someone to need it. That really does sound like the best thing ever.
    You may want to read what I said again. I like that there is a repair system. I like that my gear isn't invincible and needs maintenance. Your comment makes it out like i'm jumping for joy to repair something. And there's the issue, many people feel that if it doesn't do that, it shouldn't exist. I have to disagree with that.
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  2. #62
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    Nakiamiie's Avatar
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    Maelina Sylfei
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicdeath View Post
    This stuff has got to stop. It is in the way of me and fun on my day off. Standing around in Ul'dah waiting...

    no I aint paying 5000 per item for 99%.

    I know there are people that like the system. I hate it, and it will likely make me quit sooner rather than later.
    Gear damage is a nice death penalty that slows down your character without losing on the hard work you put into your character.

    5000 gil per piece is really cheap, what's the big fuss? Where are you throwing all your gil? Just do a couple of leves and you'll have the money in no time. Go farm some low level monsters and sell their crap, etc. There are many ways to easily earn enough gil to repair your stuff.

    Also, being friendly usually helps in having people repair your gear.
    Just saying...

    (I think they should include a finance course 101 when purchasing FFXIV...)
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
    (Marvelous economics IQ test!)

  3. #63
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    Eliseus's Avatar
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    Eliseus Kayne
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    You may want to read what I said again. I like that there is a repair system. I like that my gear isn't invincible and needs maintenance. Your comment makes it out like i'm jumping for joy to repair something. And there's the issue, many people feel that if it doesn't do that, it shouldn't exist. I have to disagree with that.
    I can say the same thing, read my comment again, you make it like I'm accusing you of something. See what I did there? You said you like it, I called BS. Would you like me to reread what you said again or?
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  4. #64
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    Mihana's Avatar
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    Sa'hana Zhralyia
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    Mateus
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    Bard Lv 80
    I see nothing wrong with the repair system really, in fact it's probably better than what was originally in place. Equipment damage is supposed to be the "penalty" for dying (Or returning w/o raise anyway.) do you want it similar to FFXI or other MMOs then where you lose EXP upon dying? I know some might but I believe Yoshi-P wanted to get away from that mindset. I've only got one DoH class that can do repairs right now and a good portion of my gear isn't covered by that class either yet personally, I've never quite had problems getting repairs. Here's a few tips:

    1.) Carry the appropriate grade matter with you. Equip the armor/accessory/weapon and put up a repair request.
    2.) Level up a craft yourself. You only need to take it to at least 40 to repair all forms of equipment covered by that craft.
    3.) Put said item in your bazaar for the appropriate reward. Paying like 500G or trading dark matter for dark matter isn't going to get your crap fixed anytime sooner. Offer an incentive, 2K or 3K will get your gear repaired generally pretty quickly.

    Even if you hate doing so you're going to have to do a shout, and the best option is to do it in a populated area, and near an easily found landmark/spot too. For example, if you need a repair just do a shout for in Ul'dah, stand next to the NPC named Orrik. Type out something like... <Repair> <Can I have it?> <pos> @ <t> while targeting that NPC. People will know instantly where to find you, and it'll make it much easier. Standing down at the Aetheryte Plaza in Ul'dah or next to Rowena might even work. However at least on my server, the area around Rowena tends to get pretty congested so I avoid it when seeking repairs.
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  5. #65
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    SuzakuCMX's Avatar
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    Peach Parfait
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    Only 5000 Gil o.O You get 8 leves per day and at my level (20), leves give me 5000 gil each. You must be doing something wrong.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

  6. #66
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    Pixi Dust
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    Weaver Lv 50
    They could just do away with the need for crafters to perform the repairs and let the cost of the NPC repair take the gear to 100%. That would be a guaranteed gil sink since the money would go directly to the NPC instead of another player, and remove the irritation some seem to have in finding a crafter to repair their gear. Of course, the cost of the NPC repair would probably go up in relation to the gear level/quality, but at least at that point the gear would be whole again.

    As a crafter, I wouldn't mind one bit if the repairs were completely handled by NPC. It's been that way in just about any other game I've played that had gear damage as a death penalty.
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  7. #67
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    Rina Inverse
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    Masamune
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicdeath View Post
    I played XI. I think i have gotten to know both death systems enough to know losing an XP surplus is much better than repairing gear.

    or option 3. Play another game.
    Option 3 please
    Next!

  8. #68
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    So let me get this straight

    you want people to repair your stuff

    1) cheap
    2) without you asking
    3) and quickly
    4) and you refuse to level any craft yourself

    sounds like a personal issue that has nothing to do with the actual system
    Quoted for truth.

    As many others have said, just equip the item that needs repairing and put your repair flag up. You should get repairs within a few minutes.

    Giving dark matter as a reward for repairing doesn't motivate anyone to do it. Putting the repair request in your bazaar is also slower for the repairers, so some crafters don't even check them. Personally, if I have to put the item in bazaar (and am in a hurry and not waiting for a LS mate to repair it for free), I offer 500-2500 gil for repairs (depending on level). I've never really had to wait for repairs.
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    Last edited by Taika; 07-09-2012 at 07:48 PM.

  9. #69
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    Ryans Tardis
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    the fact that some people think 5k for a repair to 99% is expensive is pretty bad when you can earn that with a minute of work
    I certainly don't think 5k per repair is expensive, but then I don't have even have to pay that since I leveled crafts to repair my own gear. The point is that repairing is one of the gil sinks, which are required to regulate the economy, that everyone is eventually forced to have to deal with.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    You misunderstand, let me give you an example. (and please note this is an example.)
    Let's use horn glue and aldgoat horns as an example. On my server, the price is pretty dumb. 9-10k per horn average price if there even are any available and 25k on average per block of glue. Those horns are easy to farm if you do it right, but it's not something people want to do so the price is always high for what it is. If there was an NPC that sold horns at 5k each and horn glue for 15k each, prices would become more affordable and it would also take out gil from the player base because instead of player to player exchange, it's a player to npc exchange.
    This would also help lower level players since no one makes low level gear and if they made things more affordable for them and it's still taking gil out of the hands of players.
    And besides, it will still be a player based economy, just regulated by the prices set by NPC's. People will still sell stuff and plenty of it.

    Economic stability set by NPC prices and easier availability of mats/gear no one wants to farm/make. How do you not want this?
    I don't misunderstand at all. You are asking for the economy to be driven by SE instead of the players. If an item is easy to obtain but no one is willing to farm it, the price will go up. If you think the price is too high, you farm it yourself or go without. That is how free markets work. You would kill the economy if materials were available in unlimited quantity without any real chance for the community to compete, not to mention the fact that it would take the main purpose away from three of the classes. I don't want to play a game where the market controlled by the "government"
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  10. #70
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    Firon Veleth
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Please get rid of deaths when i die, I have to wait 3 mins for the debuff to go off and its ruining my game play time. /trollface
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