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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    1) If you've played an FPS where it typically takes more than 10 seconds to kill someone, you're either really terrible at the game or it's the slowest FPS game in the known universe.
    2) You've clearly never played Diablo, Diablo II, Diablo III, WoW, DDO, MapleStory, Vindictus, LOTRO, or just about every other major MMO I can think of, all of which have fights with mooks (common enemies) routinely lasting 10-20 seconds. In many of the games I listed, even one-shots are quite common. In MapleStory in particular, if it takes you 10 seconds or more to kill something, it's taking too long and you shouldn't be fighting that mob.

    Too long for regular enemies. You can achieve fights with everything you described in 30 seconds or less.
    You named the most repetitive games out there..... HOW FUN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    You named the most repetitive games out there..... HOW FUN!
    Subjective opinion is subjective. All of those are popular, well-known games and tend to have short fight times. Throwing out stupid, blanket statements like yours doesn't change the fact that this isn't an unusual occurance and since you didn't address your FPS comment, shows me that you are talking out your behind.

    Also, rude and sarcastic post is rude and sarcastic. You have a history of this sort of behavior on the forums and it's no surprise why nobody takes you seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Subjective opinion is subjective. All of those are popular, well-known games and tend to have short fight times. Throwing out stupid, blanket statements like yours doesn't change the fact that this isn't an unusual occurance and since you didn't address your FPS comment, shows me that you are talking out your behind.

    Also, rude and sarcastic post is rude and sarcastic. You have a history of this sort of behavior on the forums and it's no surprise why nobody takes you seriously.
    Ok my fps comment. There's a group of enemies it normaly takes a few minutes to kill them all if not longer.

    Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good. Take chocolate for instance, it's popular but it makes me gag from smelling it. Everything is an opinion.
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    Everything is an opinion.
    Yes- the problem though is when people start deciding their opinion is "right" and the other person's is "wrong."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Yes- the problem though is when people start deciding their opinion is "right" and the other person's is "wrong."
    Never once said that. We all have different tastes, that's why we are arguing right now. To me this is fun, to you it may seem like an annoyance of some sort. I have nothing against anyone on these forums, we each bring something that SE can take away from if they want to or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Anyways, dragons dogma is a good example of how fights should be.
    Well only in relation to Ur-Dragon, everything else is about as shit-easy as taking candy from a baby, and it even gets easier as the game progresses, rather than harder. (Whereas at least in Demon/Dark Souls, while the game was easy all throughout the first playthrough, it actually got harder as the game progressed and actually was a challenge by its 2nd playthrough.)
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    Not sure why this comes to mind, but the entire relationship between playing the game to enjoy it as it's going vs. playing it for the endgame kind of feels almost exactly like the struggle of a poorly prepared world (and game? :O) against the Empire for the right to survive and live as wanted, whereas the Empire despises it's loose powers and loose ends alike...

    Could Yoshi-P have actually set up the 1.0 series just to play homage to his own coming, founding even satirical conditions on which to lay the 2.0 plot? <~~<~(^o^)

    *Sets down the coffee.*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Not sure why this comes to mind, but the entire relationship between playing the game to enjoy it as it's going vs. playing it for the endgame kind of feels almost exactly like the struggle of a poorly prepared world (and game? :O) against the Empire for the right to survive and live as wanted, whereas the Empire despises it's loose powers and loose ends alike...

    Could Yoshi-P have actually set up the 1.0 series just to play homage to his own coming, founding even satirical conditions on which to lay the 2.0 plot? <~~<~(^o^)

    *Sets down the coffee.*
    Huh?

    Dalamud = Yoshi?

    Sure that was coffee?
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    I don't object to longer fights but in FF14 the only way I can see it happening is the NPC simply hits for less and tanks more. In addition, I'd expect more exper and the way they force scale to level I don't know if they can do that here. Signature kills that double up exper? Having attacked stuff 4 or 5 levels above me with Conjurer, I always end up running away because I just run out of MP as it simply takes too long to kill them. I could see that becoming an issue in any long fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Ok my fps comment. There's a group of enemies it normaly takes a few minutes to kill them all if not longer.

    Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good. Take chocolate for instance, it's popular but it makes me gag from smelling it. Everything is an opinion.
    Wait popular usually mean its good. I think you meant to say just because i don't like it doesn't mean its bad. fact of the matter is if a game is popular it means alot of people like it. Longer fight are pointless and if you think this game isnt as repetitive as the games Alhanelem listed than your right, its even more repetitive but so are all games eventually so why would you even try to use that as a point. FYI tryin to make a bootleg Poll on the forums is as about as accurate as a naked blm on garuda.
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