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    Except Maybe Reinheart, because he likes Subligars!
    Who doesn't like subligars?

    Seriously, those who hate subligars, aren't seeing them being worn by the right person.
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    Anyways, dragons dogma is a good example of how fights should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Anyways, dragons dogma is a good example of how fights should be.
    With normal mobs taking literal seconds to kill? Even with pawns almost all normal monsters go down nearly instantly. The boss fights take a bit longer sure but FFXIV's boss fights are just as long, if not longer. The only long boss fights in Dragon's Dogma are the final boss and the Ur-Dragon.

    Anyway, we all know Rokien is a troll. No point in trying to actually reason with him. This should be very apparent judging by his last few statements in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    With normal mobs taking literal seconds to kill? Even with pawns almost all normal monsters go down nearly instantly. The boss fights take a bit longer sure but FFXIV's boss fights are just as long, if not longer. The only long boss fights in Dragon's Dogma are the final boss and the Ur-Dragon.

    Anyway, we all know Rokien is a troll. No point in trying to actually reason with him. This should be very apparent judging by his last few statements in this thread.
    Sorry I should have posted this in the faceroll thread. It pertains more to that than longer fight thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Anyways, dragons dogma is a good example of how fights should be.
    Isn't Dragon's Dogma a free-aim action RPG? You figure someone would have made an MMO like that by now...
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    The fights should be a bit longer. Leveling speed isn't an issue any any MMO, the biggest issue in FFXIV is the lack of anything to do between level 1-49 which is what is hurting the game.

    I'd rather level slower if I had more stuff to do. The biggest complaint about both FFXI in the past and FFXIV right now is that there is nothing to do between level 1 and the level caps that make you feel rewarded, but even FFXI had BCNMs we have what... toto-rak which is a joke of a dungeon at best.
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    Every other rpg game I play consists of fights that are longer than 10 seconds. Heck even FPS have longer fights.
    1) If you've played an FPS where it typically takes more than 10 seconds to kill someone, you're either really terrible at the game or it's the slowest FPS game in the known universe.
    2) You've clearly never played Diablo, Diablo II, Diablo III, WoW, DDO, MapleStory, Vindictus, LOTRO, or just about every other major MMO I can think of, all of which have fights with mooks (common enemies) routinely lasting 10-20 seconds. In many of the games I listed, even one-shots are quite common. In MapleStory in particular, if it takes you 10 seconds or more to kill something, it's taking too long and you shouldn't be fighting that mob.

    So yeah about a minute per battle
    Too long for regular enemies. You can achieve fights with everything you described in 30 seconds or maybe even less. Granted, that would still be an increase in fight duration for some of the stronger characters in the game. but for the average player, fighting an appropriate strength enemy already takes a lot more than the "10-20 second" numbers that have been thrown around in this thread. I'm really seeing even less of a problem with fight duration as this thread goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    1) If you've played an FPS where it typically takes more than 10 seconds to kill someone, you're either really terrible at the game or it's the slowest FPS game in the known universe.
    2) You've clearly never played Diablo, Diablo II, Diablo III, WoW, DDO, MapleStory, Vindictus, LOTRO, or just about every other major MMO I can think of, all of which have fights with mooks (common enemies) routinely lasting 10-20 seconds. In many of the games I listed, even one-shots are quite common. In MapleStory in particular, if it takes you 10 seconds or more to kill something, it's taking too long and you shouldn't be fighting that mob.

    Too long for regular enemies. You can achieve fights with everything you described in 30 seconds or less.
    You named the most repetitive games out there..... HOW FUN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    You named the most repetitive games out there..... HOW FUN!
    Subjective opinion is subjective. All of those are popular, well-known games and tend to have short fight times. Throwing out stupid, blanket statements like yours doesn't change the fact that this isn't an unusual occurance and since you didn't address your FPS comment, shows me that you are talking out your behind.

    Also, rude and sarcastic post is rude and sarcastic. You have a history of this sort of behavior on the forums and it's no surprise why nobody takes you seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Subjective opinion is subjective. All of those are popular, well-known games and tend to have short fight times. Throwing out stupid, blanket statements like yours doesn't change the fact that this isn't an unusual occurance and since you didn't address your FPS comment, shows me that you are talking out your behind.

    Also, rude and sarcastic post is rude and sarcastic. You have a history of this sort of behavior on the forums and it's no surprise why nobody takes you seriously.
    Ok my fps comment. There's a group of enemies it normaly takes a few minutes to kill them all if not longer.

    Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good. Take chocolate for instance, it's popular but it makes me gag from smelling it. Everything is an opinion.
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