Not a real Final Fantasy

[Meow_Zedong]

This is something that has been giving me an itch for a few days now. I just realized we were ticked into playing FFXIV (starting beta and launch days) presumably thinking, that this game is just like the other Final Fantasy's. Lets look at the root of the problem; the Armoury System. Who in their right mind would take out classes. Really, I understand the first producer had his ambitions and desires, BUT Final Fantasy has always had Classic, distinct, Final Fantasy classes. I don't mind, too bad, renaming them but making the idea of the Armoury System apart of a Final Fantasy game is heresy to Final Fantasy name! Our weapons is not the source of our power! The classes come form our past experiences, in turn, these classes are either taught, learned or passed down through linage. Not by equipping a weapon and so be it...

I haven't read the thread so I don't know if this has been discussed, but you obviously don't know what a "real Final Fantasy" is. The Armoury System as it was at launch is an EXACT copy of the FFII battle system, just made multiplayer. Is that not a real Final Fantasy either? Absurd.

[Daku_Naito]

Have you actually played FF games beyond 6?

And with that, more then 1 or 2 of the series.

I'm not seeing the hatred in his post. I see someone that's asking a legitimate question he doesn't know the answer to and being attacked because he showed weakness by asking a question. Bullying.

Hell, I have no idea why we use weapons to change classes myself.

You're kidding right? Bullying? OP seems to have made a whole post based on little knowledge of the FF series. People with knowledge are calling him out on it. It isn't bullying, it just makes sense.

[Gramul]

There's a lot of hatred in this forum. I think I'll just leave it be. Thank you, I'm out.

Ah come on. No reason to quit so soon.
We still have to show you why you're wrong about so many other things.

[Daku_Naito]

Ah come on. No reason to quit so soon.
We still have to show you why you're wrong about so many other things.

You never cease to make me laugh Eisen!

[Mort]

Yo OP haters, I think armory system sounds good on paper but I think its pritty bad implemented, and i dont really think it got any better with the job advancements.

The biggest reason i dont like it, is like OP said, weapons is tied to each class. I want to be able to use a set of weapons for each job. Its quite ugly how they did with Conjurer and Thaumaturge, both use quite the same weapons. Also its going to get even more ugly when they need a new class for each new weapon, then add 2-3 jobs for each class.

[Kafeen]

Lets look at the root of the problem; the Armoury System. Who in their right mind would take out classes.

The armoury system is classes, its a different name, nothing more. Instead of selecting from a list of class names, you select the tool that that class uses. Just like how in FFX-2 you selected the dress-sphere to select the class.

Really, I understand the first producer had his ambitions and desires, BUT Final Fantasy has always had Classic, distinct, Final Fantasy classes.

But what about other FF games? I don't remember distinct classes in many FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX, etc. Are these games not real Final Fantasy games?

Systems differ in every Final Fantasy game. Some games abilities are learned as you level, some by equipping certain items, some by spending points.

There is no TRUE Final Fantasy method to doing things.

[Ruisu]

I guess you hated FFIX then, right OP? You hated that skills were bound to weapons and gear.

and if you hated IX you have a shit taste in FF and I'm going to laugh at you and your complaints. Har har har.

[Valmonte]

FF never had Classes till 14, even then you'd be hard pressed to try and figure out who was what Job in FF7,8,9,10 and 12 as they tend to scrap the whole job system for more universal roles like the old FF14 Classes, you could use any skill on any class provided you learned it. still Pretty much all FF games had job identities in some form or another, some characters more defined than others.

while i dislike the armory system for many reasons the one that bugs me the most is the lack of player choice...if I'm a warrior i get to choose axe, axe or an axe as my primary weapon. what if i wanted to be a great sword Warrior? well i cant because the great sword belongs to PLD or some otherclass.

the other thing that bugs me is(recycling someones metaphore here) is that just because i got a gun @ lvl1 doesn't turn me into an automatic pro sharpshooter. in short i prefer XI's Weapon System and Armory System Versatility.

[Zyph]

and if you hated IX you have a shit taste in FF

I'm considering buying another copy of this game so I can have another account on these forums just to like this comment again.

[syntaxlies]

This is something that has been giving me an itch for a few days now. I just realized we were ticked into playing FFXIV (starting beta and launch days) presumably thinking, that this game is just like the other Final Fantasy's. Lets look at the root of the problem; the Armoury System. Who in their right mind would take out classes. Really, I understand the first producer had his ambitions and desires, BUT Final Fantasy has always had Classic, distinct, Final Fantasy classes. I don't mind, too bad, renaming them but making the idea of the Armoury System apart of a Final Fantasy game is heresy to Final Fantasy name! Our weapons is not the source of our power! The classes come form our past experiences, in turn, these classes are either taught, learned or passed down through linage. Not by equipping a weapon and so be it...

If you know so much about ff then you should know that no 2 games are the same