Not a real Final Fantasy

[Sleepytoro]

This is something that has been giving me an itch for a few days now. I just realized we were ticked into playing FFXIV (starting beta and launch days) presumably thinking, that this game is just like the other Final Fantasy's. Lets look at the root of the problem; the Armoury System. Who in their right mind would take out classes. Really, I understand the first producer had his ambitions and desires, BUT Final Fantasy has always had Classic, distinct, Final Fantasy classes. I don't mind, too bad, renaming them but making the idea of the Armoury System apart of a Final Fantasy game is heresy to Final Fantasy name! Our weapons is not the source of our power! The classes come form our past experiences, in turn, these classes are either taught, learned or passed down through linage. Not by equipping a weapon and so be it...

[Zenaku]

This is something that has been giving me an itch for a few days now. I just realized we were ticked into playing FFXIV (starting beta and launch days) presumably thinking, that this game is just like the other Final Fantasy's. Lets look at the root of the problem; the Armoury System. Who in their right mind would take out classes. Really, I understand the first producer had his ambitions and desires, BUT Final Fantasy has always had Classic, distinct, Final Fantasy classes. I don't mind, too bad, renaming them but making the idea of the Armoury System apart of a Final Fantasy game is heresy to Final Fantasy name! Our weapons is not the source of our power! The classes come form our past experiences, in turn, these classes are either taught, learned or passed down through linage. Not by equipping a weapon and so be it...

The wep is the tool which we use with what we have learn you can be taught how to use a gun but without a real gun you can't really do much with that information can you XD

We know how to cast fire but without a staff we can summon that power which does come from the wep so pretty much without our tool we our useless.

[Sleepytoro]

learning these "spells", these staff and swords can tell us things that we dont know? i remember fondly in Final Fantasy X and X-2 have the orbs which teach the user memories. I don't think they make it that clear in FFXIV

edit: what i ment to say was, how do we learn stronger better skills after equipping the weapons. FFX-2 teaches memories, FFXI teaches us through scrolls. FFXIV teaches through??

Edit: FFVII teaches using materia

[Zenaku]

Yeah, you're one of those "Mash X to not read dialogue" people, aren't you?

I think he little lost due to all the change that happen seeing how before we had rank and skill up where this made more sense but now it does not but still use that idea

[Sleepytoro]

there is a lot of hatred in this forum. i think ill just leave it be. thank you, i'm out

[TheVedis]

there is a lot of hatred in this forum. i think ill just leave it be. thank you, i'm out

your telling US there is alot of hatred?

did you actualy read what you posted?

[Gramul]

There's a lot of hatred in this forum. I think I'll just leave it be. Thank you, I'm out.

Ah come on. No reason to quit so soon.
We still have to show you why you're wrong about so many other things.

[elreed]

learning these "spells", these staff and swords can tell us things that we dont know? i remember fondly in Final Fantasy X and X-2 have the orbs which teach the user memories. I don't think they make it that clear in FFXIV

edit: what i ment to say was, how do we learn stronger better skills after equipping the weapons. FFX-2 teaches memories, FFXI teaches us through scrolls. FFXIV teaches through??

Edit: FFVII teaches using materia

Thats why we had to do guild quest to unlock weapon skills and traits by getting enough guild points, the guild teached us the mos important skills, i dont know if those still exist, but that was the main idea of that system, besides there was a level experience point and a class skill point system, with the level system you could be a level 50 character with a "gladiator skill level one" helping you to skill up your class faster and at the end making your own class by combining different classes skills without restrictions, like a gladiator having thaumaturge spells would equal a red mage hybrid.

At the end everything got too complex and the roles werent done as they should have, Now you see a paladin and you know that you'll have a tank in your party, the armoury system its a very interesting one, far more interesting than talent trees used in several new and old MMO's, we wouldnt have any jobs if the game release wasnt rushed in the first place, was a good system but with lots of flaws.

[KaplanHomahru]

Lol.

(that's all I was going to say, but there's a ten char min)